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In this episode, Dwayne, Tony, and Jack Phillips discuss their earliest memories of connecting with trees. They explore the concept of human forestry and the importance of cultivating a connection with nature throughout our lives. They also discuss the wisdom of trees and the power of relationships in both the natural world and our own lives. The conversation explores the importance of relationships, the legacy of Dr. Shigo, the value of being present, the journey vs. the destination, and the impact of tree planting. It also discusses the importance of creating space for exploration. In this conversation, the topics covered include leadership and personal growth, teaching and learning holistically, the impact of holistic teaching, levels of training and transformation, silence and communal connection, the power of silence and nature, reconnecting with nature, communing with trees and wildlife, creating space for silence and connection, the impact of silence on learning, and book recommendations.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00
Introduction and Childhood Memories
09:12
The Concept of Human Forestry
25:46
Cultivating the Connection with Nature
33:31
The Importance of Seeing Trees as a Whole
35:43
The Wisdom of Trees and the Power of Relationships
38:20
The Importance of Relationships
41:37
The Legacy of Dr. Shigo
42:56
The Value of Taking in the Surroundings
45:08
The Importance of Being Present
46:27
The Journey vs. the Destination
48:57
The Hunger Moon and Naming Desires
53:18
Maturity and Education
54:05
Dr. Shigo's Legacy
54:46
The Unfinished Book: The Soul of a Tree
58:06
The Importance of Touching Trees
01:02:09
The Book Collaboration with Dr. Shigo
01:05:37
The Impact of Tree Planting
01:08:29
Creating Space for Exploration
01:10:50
Leadership and Personal Growth
01:12:01
Teaching and Learning Holistically
01:13:28
The Impact of Holistic Teaching
01:14:28
Levels of Training and Transformation
01:15:42
Silence and Communal Connection
01:19:13
The Power of Silence and Nature
01:21:24
Reconnecting with Nature
01:23:07
Communing with Trees and Wildlife
01:26:08
Creating Space for Silence and Connection
01:29:13
The Impact of Silence on Learning
01:32:22
Book Recommendations
01:38:37
Reflecting on the Conversation
In this episode, Dwayne Nuestaeter and Tony Tresselt interview Toby Sherrill, the founder of Sherrill Arbor Supply and inventor of the Big Shot. Toby shares his first connection to trees, growing up in the tree care industry, and his journey into the business. He discusses the creation of the company's catalog, which became an educational resource for the industry. Toby also talks about the development of throw line equipment and the invention of the Big Shot, a pioneering product in the industry. This part of the conversation explores the evolution of slingshots and the challenges of building them. It also delves into the growth of the tree care industry and the impact of recessions on the business. The importance of focus and specialization is highlighted, along with the need for help and delegation. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the significance of catalogs and visuals in the industry. In this conversation, Toby Sherrill discusses the impact of the digital age on the tree care industry and the evolution of Sherrill Tree. He shares the origins of the company and the pride he feels in its growth. The conversation also touches on the significance of the Big Shot tool and the importance of trade shows in inspiring tree workers.
Chapters
00:00
Introduction and Background
02:54
First Connection to Trees
05:56
Entering the Tree Care Industry
10:14
Family Business and Catalog Creation
25:05
Throw Line Innovation
29:55
Invention of the Big Shot
32:23
The Evolution of Slingshots and Team Building
33:40
Trial and Error in Building Slingshots
34:37
Experimenting with Tubing Lengths
35:06
Improving the Height and Distance of Shots
36:15
Climbing and Crossbow Shots
37:10
The Fishing Rod Technique
37:35
The Growth of the Tree Care Industry
39:16
The Increase in Tree Care Companies
40:42
The Human Forest: The Arborist Community
41:40
The Impact of Mail Orders and Catalogs
43:30
Identifying Tree Care Companies
44:12
Using Equipment Orders to Identify Tree Care Practitioners
45:23
The Impact of Recessions on the Tree Care Industry
46:44
The Importance of Focus and Specialization
49:06
Recognizing the Need for Help and Delegating
52:59
Expanding into Manufacturing and Splicing Rope
56:37
Transitioning Away from Heavy Equipment
59:12
The Importance of the Catalog and Visuals
01:02:52
The Impact of the Digital Age
01:04:08
The Evolution of Sherrill Tree
01:05:04
The Legacy of the Company
01:06:26
The Origins of Sherrill Tree
01:07:15
The Importance of Safety
01:08:17
The Big Shot
01:10:08
The Influence of Trade Shows
01:11:05
The Inspiration of Trade Events
01:12:02
Unveiling the Big Shot
01:13:19
The Value of the Big Shot
01:14:12
The Fun of the Big Shot
01:15:15
The Legacy of Sherrill Tree
01:16:13
The Importance of Information in the Catalog
01:17:27
The Evolution of Climbing Techniques
01:18:25
The Founding of Sherrill Tree
01:19:43
The Impact of the First Computer
01:22:12
The Importance of the Sherrill Tree Catalog
01:23:12
The Evolution of Climbing Techniques
01:25:01
The Legacy of Sherrill Tree
In the special bonus episode of TreeActions Dwayne and Tony chat with Emi Wekert about Spoke N' Loam the urban forestry conference he co-founded this year. Spoke n’ Loam will be hosted at the Backstage Theatre at the Fringe Theatre Arts Barns in Old Strathcona on June 21st, 2024. The event will run from 10 AM to 4 PM and feature five presenters from across the continent.
In this episode Emi discusses the inspiration behind the event 'Spoke N' Loam' and its vision to connect people through the concept of a human forest. The event features speakers from various fields, including arboriculture, and aims to spark conversations and promote community engagement. Emi also shares his connection with trees and the impact of bicycles on urban forestry.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00
The Inspiration Behind 'Spoke N' Loam'
03:14
Connecting Through the Human Forest
37:57
Promoting Community Engagement
Find more info and get your tickets at:
https://spokenloam.ca/
President- Forest Applications Training, Inc.
Previous partner and shareholder in Game of Logging, Inc.
Business Experience
1978 - Owner Operator Small Engine Chain saw Dealership, Cartersville, GA.
1981 - Manager Nicholson's Equipment Co., Chain saw Distribution
1983 - Meier & White Equipment Co. Austell, GA, Stihl Distributor.
1987 - Stihl Inc., Technical Sales, and Applications Instructor Nationwide.
1992 - National Forest Applications Manager/Instructor Husqvarna Forest & Garden
1996 to 1998 - Vice President of ArborMaster Training, Inc.
1993 to 1998- Vice-President of Game of Logging, Inc.
2004 to 2007 - Husqvarna Field Training Manager
1993 to present- President of Forest Applications Training, Inc.
Training Experience (Technical and Technique Training Associated With and or Conducted)
Small Engine Training Sessions
Sales and Technical Training Sessions
Chainsaw Safety Training - Over 10,000 persons attending
City, County, and State agencies
Power and Utility Companies
Logger Training - Over 6000 persons attending
10+ Year Training Association with Soren Eriksson Training, Inc. and the Game of Logging.
State-Operated Logger Certification Programs
APA Logger Training Workshops
USFS Training Sessions
DOT Training the Trainer Programs
Eva Monheim is the co-host, director, and producer of The Plant a Trillion Trees Podcast and a certified arborist through the International Society of Arboriculture (ISA). She is the Author of Shrubs & Hedges: Discover, Grow, and Care for the World’s Most Popular Plants and has authored over 100 articles and scholarly papers along with numerous woody plant manuals. Eva is an award-winning educator with a horticultural and environmental consulting, and garden coaching business. She’s an instructor at the globally recognized Longwood Gardens for the Professional Horticulture Program where she teaches Arboriculture and Woody Plants. Additionally, she teaches Woody Plants in the Continuing Education Certificate Program.
Eva instructs Landscape Management and Garden Appreciation at The Barnes Arboretum at St. Joseph’s University and holds numerous degrees from the Pennsylvania State University in horticulture and art, a degree from Arcadia University in English literature, and post graduate courses in horticulture from the University of Reading in England. Her education at the University of Reading, has given her a global appreciation of garden design and environmental sensitivity for her work in the U.S. and abroad.
Monheim’s articles, designs, and photographs have appeared in national, regional, and local magazines, and newspapers – she even had her own newspaper column in The Philadelphia Inquirer. Eva was an assistant professor of instruction at Temple University in the department of landscape architecture and horticulture for over twelve years where she taught thirteen different subjects in undergraduate and graduate programs and was an early adaptor of teaching online. Monheim has owned several businesses including a floral shop, landscaping company, and is currently a co-principal of VEE – Verdant Earth Educators, LLC – an environmental consulting firm. Her breadth of knowledge in the horticulture industry and her extensive teaching experience has empowered hundreds of students who are now leaders in the commercial and public sectors of the green industry.
Summary
In this episode, Eva Monheim shares her early memories of trees and their significance in her life. She discusses the rituals and traditions associated with trees, such as using pussy willows for Easter and picking fruits from neighbors' trees. Eva also explores the connection between trees and religion, highlighting the importance of honoring all living beings. She emphasizes the consciousness and communication of trees, as well as the significance of calendars and lunar cycles in understanding their behavior. Eva concludes by discussing the importance of self-care and compassion in the field of arboriculture and the power of teaching with care and connection. This conversation explores the heart of a teacher and the importance of understanding tree biology in arboriculture. The speakers discuss the concept of being mindful in tree care and the humility of a teacher. They also touch on the importance of experiencing trees from a tree's perspective and the significance of growth rings in understanding tree health. The conversation highlights the connection between trees and their environment, as well as the connection between trees and structures. The speakers emphasize the importance of stress and hardship in personal growth and the role of comfort in disconnect.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00
Introduction and Weather Discussion
03:20
First Memory of Connection with Trees
08:43
Trees Providing Sustenance and Enjoyment
10:32
Tree Rituals and Traditions
11:57
Connection Between Trees and Religion
14:27
The Interconnection Between People, Animals, and Trees
16:26
The Importance of Honoring All Living Beings
17:54
The Consciousness and Communication of Trees
21:09
The Relationship Between Trees and Astrology
25:10
The Importance of Calendars and Lunar Cycles
27:18
The Lessons from Old Trees and Discovery
29:30
The Evolution of Safety Standards and Inventions
35:19
The Importance of Self-Care and Compassion
39:23
The Power of Teaching with Care and Connection
43:22
Staying Connected with Students and Colleagues
45:00
The Heart of a Teacher
46:02
Understanding the Tree
48:22
The Importance of Tree Biology
51:56
Being Mindful in Tree Care
52:53
The Journey of Learning
54:33
The Humility of a Teacher
55:40
Teaching Arboriculture on the Ground
58:04
Teaching Arboriculture from a Production Arborist's Perspective
01:00:15
Experiencing Trees from a Tree's Perspective
01:02:09
The Concept of Growth Rings
01:03:02
Understanding Tree Rings and Tree Health
01:05:00
The Connection Between Trees and Their Environment
01:07:09
The Connection Between Trees and Structures
01:09:28
The Importance of Stress and Hardship in Growth
01:11:59
The Connection Between Comfort and Disconnect
01:18:32
Seeing Obstacles as Opportunities
01:20:06
The Importance of Variances and Ups and Downs in Life
Summary
In this episode, Dwayne, Tony, and Mark discuss their connections to trees and the vulnerability and solace they find in the forest. They explore the concept of responsibility and the importance of approaching trees with respect and humility. They also delve into the energy fields of trees and the significance of holding ceremonies and thanking trees. The conversation highlights the role of mentors and shadow mentors in shaping their understanding of trees and the lessons learned from adversity.
Overall, the episode emphasizes the interconnectedness of humans and trees and the importance of listening and observing in the natural world. In this conversation, Dwayne, Mark, and Tony discuss the concept of shadow mentors and personal growth. They explore the idea of learning from difficult experiences and using them as opportunities for self-improvement. Mark introduces the growth ring metaphor, comparing personal development to the growth rings of a tree. They also discuss the importance of preserving the wisdom and experience of older arborists and allowing them to mentor and lead. The conversation touches on the need for exit plans and alternative paths in the industry, as well as the importance of driving your career and exploring different avenues. They emphasize the value of mentorship and sharing knowledge to ensure the growth and development of future generations of arborists.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00
Introduction and Connection to Trees
02:05
Vulnerability and Solitude in Trees
03:32
Running Through the Forest and Finding Safety
05:32
Dealing with Life's Frustrations and Challenges
06:47
Awareness of Mortality and Responsibility
09:04
Resiliency and Protection in the Forest
10:46
Approaching Trees with Responsibility and Respect
11:55
The Energy and Consciousness of Trees
14:32
Using Analogies and Stories to Connect with Trees
16:18
Holding Ceremony and Thanking Trees
17:40
Connecting with Trees' Energy Fields
20:06
Observing and Listening to Trees
25:24
The Energy and Vibration of the Human Forest
28:08
Approaching Trees with Humility and Openness
30:34
The Importance of Mentors and Shadow Mentors
39:02
First Experience Climbing and the Influence of Mentors
44:28
Learning and Growing from Adversity
45:27
Gratitude for Connections and Energy Fields
46:20
Shadow Mentors and Personal Growth
48:08
The Growth Ring Metaphor
49:32
Novice, Apprentice, Master, and Sage
51:32
Preserving the Sages
55:52
Preserving the Legacy and Importance of Experience
56:49
Personal Development and Driving Your Own Career
01:00:31
The Challenge of Transitioning from Field Work to Other Roles
01:04:26
The Need for Exit Plans and Alternative Paths
01:07:21
Adapting to Changes in the Industry
01:09:38
Driving Multiple Buses and Exploring Different Avenues
01:10:55
The Importance of Mentorship and Sharing Knowledge
01:12:37
Continuing the Conversation and Exploring Other Topics
Em Roberts “EmRo”
Biography
Em’s career in the tree industry began in 2008 with the US Forest Service as a sawyer and hazard tree feller in Idaho. Her love for chainsaws was immediate and powerful. She has since worked with trees and chainsaws in many different forest types all over the country and became a full-time resident of the Pacific Northwest in 2014. She was Washington State Parks’ first and only female arborist….so far. After taking her career upward into the canopy and further fueling a passion for proper care of the world’s most incredible organisms, she started her own residential tree care company focused on preservation-based production arboriculture and consulting. Throughout the past several years, Em has spent a large percentage of her time sharing her knowledge and passion with others in the industry through training and education as a lead instructor for a few arboriculture and forestry safety organizations. Em was voted 2019 Tree Worker of the Year, and 2021 Arborist of the Year by the PNW Chapter of ISA. She is an ISA Certified Arborist and is Tree Risk Assessment Qualified.
Summary
In this episode, we welcome Emily Roberts "Emro" to discuss the connection to trees and her career path in tree work. We learn about Emro's first experiences with trees and how her childhood fascination led to a career in the field. The conversation explores the importance of mentorship and learning from mistakes in tree falling. They also discuss the evolution of cutting techniques, including the introduction of precision falling and the controversy surrounding it. The episode highlights the importance of understanding chainsaw cutting and the benefits of the open-face notch technique. Overall, it provides insights into the journey and progression of Emro, her journey with trees, and in the tree care industry. Beyond the obvious topics, if you read between the lines we discuss and explore the nature of training, learning and living.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00
Introduction and Guest Introduction
01:49
First Experience with Trees
03:49
Childhood Fascination and Career Path
08:40
First Memory of Success
11:46
Learning and Mentorship in Tree Falling
15:29
Feeling of Pride and Elation
17:27
Progression and Journey in Tree Work
20:45
Importance of First Tree Experience
22:01
Evolution of Cutting Techniques
23:47
Challenges and Learning from Mistakes
24:26
Introduction to Precision Falling
27:08
Controversy and Resistance to New Techniques
32:28
Importance of Understanding Chainsaw Cutting
35:31
Learning from Experience and Age
38:31
Different Approaches to Cutting Techniques
41:03
Benefits of Open Face Notch
45:54
Impact of Precision Falling in the Arborist Industry
Sharon Lilly is the former Director of Education at the International Society of Arboriculture. She is a past president of ISA and former chair of the ISA Certification Board. She has more than 25 years of experience in the commercial sector as a climber and tree service owner and has also taught arboriculture at the college level. Sharon is the author or co-author of several popular books, including the ISA Arborist Certification Study Guide, The Tree Climbers’ Guide, The Tree Worker’s Manual, and The BCMA Guide for Preparation, as well as several BMPs, articles, and other publications. She has been instrumental in directing and producing many arborist training materials and videos including the Introduction to Arboriculture CD set, the ArborMaster Training Series, The Art and Science of Practical Rigging, and The Legends of Arboriculture.
Summary
In this episode, Sharon Lilly shares her journey in the tree industry, from her early memories of climbing trees as a child to becoming a professional tree climber. She discusses the evolution of climbing techniques and equipment, the importance of safety training, and the impact of trees on her personal life. Sharon also reflects on her relationship with Peter Donzelli and the tragedy of his passing. Throughout the conversation, she emphasizes the need for consistent training, proper gear, and a strong foundation in tree work. In this conversation, Sharon Lilly, Dwayne Neustaeter, and Tony Tresselt discuss their love for trees and the fascinating trees they have encountered. They also explore the decline in tree topping and the impact of certification in the arboriculture industry. The conversation highlights the increased awareness and education surrounding trees, as well as the interconnectedness of trees and people. The hosts also discuss the joy of teaching and the value of sharing knowledge within the arborist community. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of trees and the human forest.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00
Introduction and Welcome
01:19
First Memory of Connecting with Trees
03:07
Getting Started in the Tree Industry
04:28
Early Gear and Equipment
05:17
Balancing Tree Work and Academics
06:06
Passion for Tree Climbing
07:07
Relationship with Peter Donzelli
08:27
Memories of Visiting Sharon's House
09:29
Tragedy and Loss
10:07
The Tree Climber's Manual
11:08
Impact of Training and Education
13:08
Evolution of Climbing Techniques
14:06
Importance of Proper Gear and Equipment
17:27
Variability in Training and Competitions
18:16
Challenges in Promoting Safety
20:09
Importance of Consistent Training
21:09
Mechanization in the Tree Industry
23:30
Innovation in Equipment and Techniques
25:22
New Generation of Arborists
28:04
Importance of Foundational Skills
29:08
Challenges of Online Instructional Content
31:26
Importance of Terminology and Definitions
34:05
Impact of Trees in Personal Life
40:59
Retirement and Connection to Trees
42:21
Tree Worker Mentality
43:09
The Love for Trees
44:20
Finding Fascinating Trees
45:13
Arborists and Birding
46:33
Decline in Tree Topping
49:35
The Impact of Certification
50:45
Increased Awareness and Education
52:25
Issues with Certification
54:16
Certified Arborist vs. Degrees
57:49
The Value of Certification
59:34
The Human Forest
01:05:45
The Joy of Teaching
01:11:25
The Interconnectedness of Trees and People
Summary
In this episode, Matt Vinnett shares his childhood connection with trees and how it led him to discover arboriculture and tree climbing. He discusses his involvement in tree climbing competitions and his passion for bringing people into the industry. Matt also highlights the significance of Arbor Day in Winnipeg and the sense of community and collaboration it fosters. He reflects on his recent experience in Hong Kong and the respect and value people have for trees in the city. Matt concludes by discussing the lessons trees can teach us in human interaction. This conversation explores the challenges and complexities of tree appraisal and the value of trees beyond their monetary worth. The speakers discuss the concept of tree depreciation and the struggle to appreciate trees beyond their monetary value. They also delve into the conundrum of assigning value to living things and the cultural significance of trees. The conversation highlights the importance of balancing the needs of trees and people in arboriculture and the symbolic value of trees in representing history and significance. The speakers also touch on the connection between trees and wildlife, the lifespan and legacy of trees, and the impact of logging on tree energy. They discuss the ownership and value of trees, the need to educate others on their value, and the challenges of tree appraisal in different contexts. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the importance of understanding tree resilience and adaptability, and the collaborative nature of arboriculture.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00
Introduction and Childhood Connection with Trees
03:33
Discovering Arboriculture and Climbing Trees
08:24
Involvement in Tree Climbing Competitions
10:45
Bringing People into the Industry
18:30
The Significance of Arbor Day in Winnipeg
26:29
The Sense of Community and Collaboration in Arbor Day
36:22
The Connection to Trees in Hong Kong
45:43
The Lessons Trees Can Teach Us in Human Interaction
47:10
Appreciating Trees: The Challenge of Tree Depreciation
48:38
The Value of Trees and the Conundrum of Tree Appraisal
49:28
The Significance of Trees and Cultural Value
50:49
Balancing the Needs of Trees and People in Arboriculture
51:44
The Importance of Trees in Symbolizing History and Significance
52:14
The Connection Between Trees and Wildlife
53:01
The Lifespan and Legacy of Trees
54:28
The Impact of Logging and Clean-up on Tree Energy
55:55
Ownership and Value of Trees
56:32
Educating Others on the Value of Trees
57:54
The Challenge of Tree Appraisal in Hong Kong
59:17
The Need for a Different Approach to Tree Appraisal
01:00:08
The Pricelessness of Trees and the Limitations of Money
01:01:33
The Importance of Understanding Tree Resilience and Adaptability
01:02:11
The Lack of Biological Control Practices in Hong Kong
01:03:45
The New Concept of Arboriculture in Hong Kong
01:04:47
The Battle Against Dutch Elm Disease in Winnipeg
01:05:45
The Importance of Collaboration and Synergy in Arboriculture
01:06:28
The Arbor Day Event in Winnipeg
Summary
Blair Veitch, with 40 years of experience in the tree industry, shares his journey and insights. He recalls his early connection to trees, from climbing a 60-foot white spruce as a child to logging with his father. Blair's passion for tree biology grew over time, leading him to study and learn about trees. He emphasizes the importance of tree climbing competitions and training events in his career. Blair also discusses the challenges and rewards of transitioning from utility work to residential and commercial tree care. He highlights the need for physical fitness and self-care in the industry and draws parallels between trees and human resilience. Blair encourages young arborists to be patient and see things through, as good things will come with time and perseverance. The conversation explores the advancements in tree climbing and how technology has made the job easier and safer. It discusses the changes in the tree industry over the past 30 years, including scientific advancements and the need for proper trade recognition. The future of the tree industry is examined, with a focus on the importance of trade recognition and the role of associations in driving education and professionalism. The challenges in establishing arboriculture as a trade are discussed, including the fear of change and the need for organized labor. The conversation concludes with a reflection on the role of youth in embracing change and shaping the future of the industry.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00
Introduction and Background
01:31
Early Connection to Trees
04:01
Passion for Tree Biology
06:13
Tree Climbing Competitions
07:20
Transition from Utility to Residential
08:17
First Time Climbing with a Harness
09:47
Involvement in Tree Climbing Competitions
10:33
Transition from Alberta to BC
14:23
Maintaining Personal Fitness and Self-Care
15:22
Drawing Parallels from Trees to Life
20:57
Maintaining Physical Health
25:19
Comparison to Trees
28:13
Adaptability and Change
30:10
Connection to Nature and Countryside
33:26
Advancements in the Industry
35:53
Challenges of the New Generation
38:07
Patience and Perseverance
44:25
Advancements in the Industry
44:44
Advancements in Tree Climbing
46:13
Changes in the Tree Industry
47:08
Recognition of Arboriculture as a Trade
48:16
The Future of the Tree Industry
51:57
The Role of Associations in Trade Recognition
55:50
Challenges in Establishing Arboriculture as a Trade
58:23
The Fear of Change
59:06
The Role of Youth in Embracing Change
59:48
Conclusion
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