Aspen and Kenny are joined by the illustrious Jessie Earl - you might know her from her entire job being Star Trek (and a lot of Star Wars too!). 

The trio discuss how this week's Star Trek is ironically on point about race by demonstrating the dangers of centrist, respectability politics. We also talk about how it’s nice to see the Jedi be more than space cops (AJAB). 

Not only do we discuss our episodes of the day, the Patreon portion of the conversation was too good not to share on the regular feed. You lucky dogs.
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Aspen hates Whom Gods Destroy. Kenny loves Defenders of Peace (and so does Aspen). 

Is the Galactic Republic a strictly American analog? We also discuss the nature of conflict. Also, Uhura, Sulu, and Chekov are constantly undercut. Why is that?

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What does it mean to sacrifice one life over 1000? And what does it mean to be a horny Helen of Troy analog? 


Aspen talks about the nature of empathy. And Kenny talks about Lajos Egri. You know, Lajos Egri? Everyone knows!

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We're mad about The Acolyte getting cancelled. 


Also, what does it mean to be an empath? Is Obi-Wan Kenobi compassionate? And where are Kenny and Aspen in our love of these fandoms?


All these answers and more!

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This week, the Scalosians fight to survive by **checks notes**  freezing the Enterprise. Also, Anakin and Obi-Wan lift a bunch of rocks!

Kenny brings up Ahsoka's role as caretaker in this week's episode of Clone Wars. And Aspen just really vibes with Wink of an Eye.

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Dr. Tiffany L. Knoell, author of From Monk to Superhero: Genndy Tartakovsky’s Clone Wars and the Transformation of the Jedi, comes to talk to US! COME ON!

We talk about the definining relationships between Jedi as mediative monks versus badass power fantasy. We talk about Parmen's fascist dictatorship within the context of 2024. We talk about Plato's Stepchildren's famous KISS. And animation is a medium, not a genre.

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Aspen and Kenny go out of control on the implication of Senate Commandos. Kenny goes out of control on the two (TWO!) directors for The Tholian Web. 

And Aspen goes out of control on the logos, pathos, and ethos of this week's Trek.

Also Uhura. 

It's out of control.

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Patrick Cotnoir (The George Lucas Talk Show)!!! comes to defend Jar-Jar. 

Kenny goes on about how Star Trek fans are freaks. We collectively talk about how Star Wars fans are freaks. Patrick tells Aspen about Tag and Bink. And we (possibly) put Brotherwatch to an end.

Also how are we even supposed to remember this Star Trek ep title? Petition to rename the episode.

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We're pro-union in a huge way.


Emily and Kelly (from the Delusions of Grandeur podcast) join us this week to talk about labor and economics in the Star Wars and Star Trek universe.

Emily and Kelly talk about how Han Solo is a stay at home dad.

Kenny talks about aesthetics in Star Wars (big surprise). And Aspen explains 401k's to Kenny.


Also, Kenny doesn't like Thrawn. 


#YourBrainThoughtsAreMyBrainThoughts

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REPOST!

This week, we cover STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI on Essential Sci-Fi Movies. Mike welcomes Kenny Madison and Aspen Webster from the Trek Wars podcast. 

The conversation covers the bold narrative choices of TLJ that challenge traditional storytelling in the Star Wars universe. We analyze the departure from traditional tropes, the democratization of the Force, and the evolution of iconic characters. Be nice. 

Chapters:
0:00 Intergalactic Welcome
1:06 Remembering the Ewoks
2:01 The Last Jedi Analysis
6:40 Emotional Impact
8:48 Facing Failure
11:56 Toxic Fandom
16:58 X-Men 97 Comparison
19:47 Luke Skywalker's Coolness
22:41 Emotional Experience
24:52 Embracing the Hero's Journey
26:41 Power of Community
33:09 Democratizing the Force
37:14 Rediscovering Iconography
46:17 Star Wars Fatigue and Hope for Change
1:00:55 Questioning the Purpose of New Films
1:04:56 Enter the Clone Wars and TNG
1:07:42 Outro

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