In this engaging podcast episode, the hosts delve into the nuances of conversation styles, emphasizing the difference between small talk and deep dialogue. They explore how small talk helps identify tribal connections, informed by Trevor Noah's insights. The conversation also touches on personal experiences with cults, with an emphasis on the importance of understanding and shared beliefs. The hosts illustrate how, over nearly two decades, their bond transformed from simple small talk to profound empathy and trust. The discussion captures the essence of what makes a tribe, emphasizing vulnerability and openness to question and accept differing viewpoints.