In this episode of Trucking Conversations on Trucker Talk Radio, Herlene Ancar, campus director of Sage Trucking Driving School in Columbia, South Carolina, joins Justin for a candid conversation about what it truly takes to develop professional drivers, not just CDL holders. A US Navy veteran with a background in academic leadership and an MBA in healthcare management, Herlene brings a perspective on CDL education that goes far beyond passing a DMV test. She breaks down how Sage approaches its 7-week Class A program, from the first day of class to job placement assistance, and why punctuality, accountability, and communication are built into the curriculum from day one.
Herlene draws a clear line between a driver who holds a CDL and one who is actually a professional. She explains how Sage instills habits like arriving early, making eye contact, and taking ownership of their actions, because those traits define how a driver represents themselves at every dock and shipper interaction throughout their career. She also digs into the gap between carrier recruiters and trainers, the importance of transparency when bringing on new drivers, and why companies that develop talent from within, such as promoting warehouse workers and diesel mechanics into driving roles, see far better retention and loyalty.
The conversation also covers the growing opportunity for 18-to-21-year-old drivers, the untapped potential of veterans transitioning into commercial driving, and why women entering the industry are bringing dedication, professionalism, and energy that is reshaping the workforce. Justin and Herlene discuss the Ready App Passport and the Driver Ready Score as tools that could help new drivers stand out, take ownership of their careers, and earn their seat at the table in an industry that too often leaves drivers out of the main conversation.
Herlene closes with her outlook on the next 5 years of CDL training, expressing excitement about the rise of women in trucking, the 18-to-21 pipeline gaining traction across state associations, and the trajectory of commercial driving becoming one of the top trades in America. For anyone considering trucking as a career, or any carrier wondering how to attract and keep the next generation of drivers, this episode is a must-listen.
Chapters
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1:55 Meet Herlene Ancar
2:44 From Navy Vet to CDL Education
4:08 CDL Students vs. Traditional College Students
5:16 About Sage Trucking Driving School
6:17 The Student Journey at Sage
7:47 Zero Breeze Ad
8:24 Hardest Part for New Students
9:11 CDL Holder vs. Professional Driver
10:26 Building Professionalism from Day One
14:10 Safety Culture & Pre-Trip Inspection
17:07 What Carriers Expect from Sage Grads
18:05 The Carrier-to-Driver Support Gap
20:28 Building Drivers from Within Companies
22:16 The 18-to-21 Driver Pipeline
24:33 CDL vs. College: The ROI Argument
25:51 Developing Drivers, Not Just Finding Them
26:55 Veterans Behind the Wheel
29:58 A Better Path for Military Veterans
30:53 Refresher Training for All Drivers
32:30 Ready App Passport Deep Dive
36:35 Handle Your Business: The App's Impact
40:57 Drivers Need a Seat at the Table
41:40 Women Growing in Trucking
42:57 Female Drivers Changing the Industry
44:28 Attracting the Next Generation
45:36 Transparency in Recruiting
48:11 The Next 5 Years of CDL Training
49:57 How to Find Herlene & Sage
50:27 Outro & Sponsors
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