In this episode I explore what Thomas Sowell thought about Donald Trump the first time he ran for President in 2015, and I discuss how Sowell's views on Trump evolved over the years.

The episode features a live, studio-audience conversation I had with James Fishback about why some people dislike Trump so much and how Trump supporters often view his bugs as features.

James Fishback is the founder of IncubateDebate.org, a high school debate league dedicated dedicated to free and open debate and the clash of ideas, in a civil atmosphere.

I contacted James after reading an article he penned for The Free Press, you can find the article here: https://www.thefp.com/p/judges-ruin-high-school-debate-tournaments.

The musical theme of this episode features some of the songs played at Donald Trump's political rallies during his 2024 presidential campaign. I encourage you to check out the full list of songs Trump's team selected to pump up his followers and also inspire patriotic feelings: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7673XgxqA16yhdVEFvpYyh 

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