Well he may have written The Art of the Deal - but so far Donald Trump is finding that trying to do a deal with Vladimir Putin is a somewhat different kettle of fish.

Just hours after Trump's "very productive" call with his Russian counterpart - Putin continued his attack on Ukraine, including on some energy infrastructure - something Putin had pledged to put an end to immediately in his call.

With Ukraine responding in kind with drone attacks and the two countries seemingly no nearer to peace, Kamal and Camilla ask - is Vladimir Putin simply laughing at Donald Trump?

They're also joined in the studio by former Conservative MP Mark Field, whose new book contains fascinating insights into life under three successive Tory Prime Ministers, the contretemps when he manhandled an environmental protestor and his marriage-ending affair with a certain Liz Truss...

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