In this episode of the Refine and Shine Podcast, host Angelina Rivera sits down with Ryan Schwartz, founder of Schwartz Trial Law, to explore what it really means to build a law firm rooted in trust, integrity, and service rather than flashy marketing.

Ryan shares his unconventional path from consulting and accounting to law, revealing why chasing money left him unfulfilled and how helping people became the true driver behind his success. He opens up about transitioning from criminal defense to personal injury law, why personalized client relationships matter more than case volume, and how smaller caseloads allow for deeper trust and better outcomes.

This conversation also dives into entrepreneurship, hiring a team, navigating the ebbs and flows of business ownership, and staying grounded through family, music, swimming, and transcendental meditation. Whether you are an entrepreneur, professional, or someone craving meaningful work, this episode offers powerful insight into building a career aligned with your values.

In this episode, we discuss:

Why trust matters more than marketing in the legal industry

Ryan’s journey from corporate consulting to law

Criminal defense vs. personal injury law and why he shifted

The danger of high-volume, billboard-style law firms

Building real relationships with clients

Entrepreneurship and surviving the ups and downs

When to hire help and how to build the right team

Stress management through music, meditation, and movement

Creating independence and freedom in your career

A Maya Angelou quote that guides Ryan’s client philosophy

Book & Resource Mentions:

Transcendental Meditation by Maharishi

Books by David McCullough

🔗 Connect With Ryan Schwartz

📞 Phone: 678-460-7568
🌐 Website: https://schwartztriallaw.com
📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/schwartztriallaw
📘 Facebook: Schwartz Trial Law
📍 Serving Atlanta and clients throughout Georgia

🔗 Connect With Angelina Rivera

🌐 Website: angelinarivera.com

📅 Book a Free Discovery Call: angelinarivera.com/links

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