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In this episode of the Refine and Shine Podcast, host Angelina Rivera sits down with Ryan Schwartz, founder of Schwartz Trial Law, to explore what it really means to build a law firm rooted in trust, integrity, and service rather than flashy marketing.
Ryan shares his unconventional path from consulting and accounting to law, revealing why chasing money left him unfulfilled and how helping people became the true driver behind his success. He opens up about transitioning from criminal defense to personal injury law, why personalized client relationships matter more than case volume, and how smaller caseloads allow for deeper trust and better outcomes.
This conversation also dives into entrepreneurship, hiring a team, navigating the ebbs and flows of business ownership, and staying grounded through family, music, swimming, and transcendental meditation. Whether you are an entrepreneur, professional, or someone craving meaningful work, this episode offers powerful insight into building a career aligned with your values.
In this episode, we discuss:
Why trust matters more than marketing in the legal industry
Ryanβs journey from corporate consulting to law
Criminal defense vs. personal injury law and why he shifted
The danger of high-volume, billboard-style law firms
Building real relationships with clients
Entrepreneurship and surviving the ups and downs
When to hire help and how to build the right team
Stress management through music, meditation, and movement
Creating independence and freedom in your career
A Maya Angelou quote that guides Ryanβs client philosophy
Book & Resource Mentions:
Transcendental Meditation by Maharishi
Books by David McCullough
π Connect With Ryan Schwartzπ Phone: 678-460-7568
π Website: https://schwartztriallaw.com
πΈ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/schwartztriallaw
π Facebook: Schwartz Trial Law
π Serving Atlanta and clients throughout Georgia
π Website: angelinarivera.com
π Book a Free Discovery Call: angelinarivera.com/links
π² Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/angierivera23?
π² Instagram: @refineandshinepodcast | @the.angelina.rivera
π§ YouTube: Refine and Shine Podcast | Angelina Rivera
πΌ LinkedIn: Angelina Rivera | Refine and Shine Podcast
π² TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@refineandshinepodcast
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ποΈ Work With Me β Courses & Coaching: https://angelinarivera.com/coaching-services
#RefineAndShinePodcast #RyanSchwartz #TrustOverBillboards
#ValuesDrivenBusiness #AtlantaLawyer #EthicalLeadership
#PersonalInjuryLaw #EntrepreneurJourney #ServiceFirst
#IntegrityMatters #ResilienceStories #PurposeDrivenWork
If this episode inspired you, please like, subscribe, and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform! β
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By Angelina Rivera5
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In this episode of the Refine and Shine Podcast, host Angelina Rivera sits down with Ryan Schwartz, founder of Schwartz Trial Law, to explore what it really means to build a law firm rooted in trust, integrity, and service rather than flashy marketing.
Ryan shares his unconventional path from consulting and accounting to law, revealing why chasing money left him unfulfilled and how helping people became the true driver behind his success. He opens up about transitioning from criminal defense to personal injury law, why personalized client relationships matter more than case volume, and how smaller caseloads allow for deeper trust and better outcomes.
This conversation also dives into entrepreneurship, hiring a team, navigating the ebbs and flows of business ownership, and staying grounded through family, music, swimming, and transcendental meditation. Whether you are an entrepreneur, professional, or someone craving meaningful work, this episode offers powerful insight into building a career aligned with your values.
In this episode, we discuss:
Why trust matters more than marketing in the legal industry
Ryanβs journey from corporate consulting to law
Criminal defense vs. personal injury law and why he shifted
The danger of high-volume, billboard-style law firms
Building real relationships with clients
Entrepreneurship and surviving the ups and downs
When to hire help and how to build the right team
Stress management through music, meditation, and movement
Creating independence and freedom in your career
A Maya Angelou quote that guides Ryanβs client philosophy
Book & Resource Mentions:
Transcendental Meditation by Maharishi
Books by David McCullough
π Connect With Ryan Schwartzπ Phone: 678-460-7568
π Website: https://schwartztriallaw.com
πΈ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/schwartztriallaw
π Facebook: Schwartz Trial Law
π Serving Atlanta and clients throughout Georgia
π Website: angelinarivera.com
π Book a Free Discovery Call: angelinarivera.com/links
π² Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/angierivera23?
π² Instagram: @refineandshinepodcast | @the.angelina.rivera
π§ YouTube: Refine and Shine Podcast | Angelina Rivera
πΌ LinkedIn: Angelina Rivera | Refine and Shine Podcast
π² TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@refineandshinepodcast
π§ββοΈ Sukha App β 7-Day Free Trial (no card required): TheSukha.co/?ref=angelina
ποΈ Work With Me β Courses & Coaching: https://angelinarivera.com/coaching-services
#RefineAndShinePodcast #RyanSchwartz #TrustOverBillboards
#ValuesDrivenBusiness #AtlantaLawyer #EthicalLeadership
#PersonalInjuryLaw #EntrepreneurJourney #ServiceFirst
#IntegrityMatters #ResilienceStories #PurposeDrivenWork
If this episode inspired you, please like, subscribe, and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform! β
Your feedback helps the Refine & Shine Podcast reach more amazing listeners like you.
Donβt forget to share this episode with someone who needs a reminder that healing and transformation are possible at any age.
Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.