Trust the Process Podcast

By Clark Lovell

ATTENTION MUSICIANS RECOVERING FROM INJURY! Feeling stuck, lost, or unable to keep the music alive because of an injury? Listen with me as I talk to top musicians of all instruments about their exp

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Trust the Process Podcast episodes:

January 26, 2026 The Freelance Musician Dilemma Explained (and its SOLUTION!) with Tenor Joshua Owen Mills
APOLOGIES to my audio podcast friends! for some reason, last week's episode did not publish on the audio platforms!
Social media can really bring people together!

Today I share my conversation with Welsh tenor Joshua Owen Mills, whom I met through Instagram!

He shares his experience as a freelance opera singer, and how a devastating illness taught him one thing: financial preparedness

Freelancers often do not get the benefit of insurance, or of sick leave.

What you make is what you get, and if you don't gig, you don't eat!

So what do we do when an injury or illness sidelines us?

Joshua shares some strategies to help you prepare for that inevitable rainy day.

Because here's the thing: at the end of the day, you need to be able to make objective decisions about your health.

Too many musicians put off taking care of their health because of financial pressures.

Joshua and I agree: we may not have ALL the answers

But we hope that our conversation today helps you to take steps to put your health needs first through financial preparedness!

Keep on keepin' on!

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Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast host or associated parties. Nor is this podcast meant to replace individual instruction given by physicians, psychotherapists, or private instructors.
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1h 8min
January 13, 2026 Tuning the Mind: BYU School of Music Injury Panel Discussion
I love getting to highlight peoples' stories on the podcast
But I love sharing lessons learned from them even more!
Recently I facilitated a panel discussion on injury prevention at my alma mater, BYU
We talked about injury prevention techniques
We talked about how WORLD CLASS ATHLETES and collegiate musicians have more in common than you think
And how gratitude may just change the trajectory of your life as a musician
Keep on keepin' on!
I am so indebted and grateful for the following individuals:
Panelists:
Professor Shea Owens, BYU Director of Opera (See TTP S2E13 for his full interview!)
Dr Mark Ammons, Associate Director of the BYU School of Music
Dr Jon Skidmore, Performance Psychologist, BYU Adjunct Professor of Performance Psychology
Dr Amy Gabbitas, Clarinet performer and BYU Instrument Office Manager
Event Support: Dr Erin Bailey, Assistant Professor of Music Education and Wellness Committee leader
Randy Corbett, Production Director & Music Building Manager
Sam Herrera, Recording Operations Manager
Dave Egbert, Music Streaming Producer
Dr Diane Reich, Dean, BYU College of Fine Arts and Communications Giovanni Tata, BYU Creative Works Licensing
This panel discussion was originally held at the Music Building on Brigham Young University on March 27th, 2025 and the recording is used with permission
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If you are a musician going through injury, a music educator trying to help one, or a musician just trying to make it in life, then you need to listen to EVERY episode of this up and coming show! Join our Facebook support group here Subscribe now and let's embark on this transformative journey together!
Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast host or associated parties. Nor is this podcast meant to replace individual instruction given by physicians, psychotherapists, or private instructors.
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1h 6min
January 06, 2026 SPOILER: Athletes and Musicians are the SAME - with Carrie Jackson, CMPC
WHAAATTT???
No way - athletes and musicians are NOT the same!
Ok they are very, very similar.
At least in how they experience injury psychologically
This interview is one that I have wanted to do for a year and a half
Carrie Jackson has been working with injured athletes as a Certified Mental Performance Consultant for twenty years
She is one of THE experts on how to help athletes optimize their recovery through mental skills training
We talk about how developing hardiness will help you avoid injury as a performer
There is SO much to unpack with this episode, so SHARE IT, SHARE IT, SHARE IT!
Keep on keepin' on!
Follow Carrie here: https://www.instagram.com/feedtheathlete/ https://carriejackson.com/
Follow The Injured Athlete's Club here: https://www.instagram.com/injuredathletesclub/ https://injuredathletesclub.com/
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Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast host or associated parties. Nor is this podcast meant to replace individual instruction given by physicians, psychotherapists, or private instructors.
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January 06, 2026 You NEED a HERO!
"I’m holding on for a hero ‘til the end of the night..."
Just kidding (Go check out Holding Out for a Hero by Bonnie Tyler for THAT song)

Today I share a framework that has been absolutely instrumental (no pun intended) in my own recovery journey
Ever notice how Luke Skywalker, Harry Potter, and Bilbo Baggins all seem to have the same story arc?
Something difficult happens, a mentor shows up, a journey is taken to slay the dragon, as it were...
Well, the same can be said for you who are going through an injury
I share this framework with my 1-1 clients, and wanted to share it with you!
We talk about how you can CHOOSE to embark on this journey that starts with a difficult injury, and can end with you becoming someone you only could dream of before.
But it all starts with that first decision to EMBARK on this hero's journey!
If you are a musician or music educator, this episode could change the trajectory of your life!
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Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast host or associated parties. Nor is this podcast meant to replace individual instruction given by physicians, psychotherapists, or private instructors.
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January 06, 2026 The Best Kept Secret of Music Education with Dr Kensley Behel
Welcome to Season 4 of Trust the Process!
We start off with musician health researcher, clarinetist, and Emmy award winning journalist, Dr Kensley Behel.
She shares how an anatomical hole in her soft palate kept her from performing clarinet
How that and other setbacks led her to the OLYMPICS, and becoming a musician health researcher
Most of all, if you are a music educator or student, she shares the secret to staying healthy and achieving excellence in your craft!
Keep on keepin' on!
Follow Kensley here: https://www.instagram.com/kensleybehel/ https://www.kensleybehel.com/
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If you are a musician going through injury, a music educator trying to help one, or a musician just trying to make it in life, then you need to listen to EVERY episode of this up and coming show!
Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast host or associated parties. Nor is this podcast meant to replace individual instruction given by physicians, psychotherapists, or private instructors.
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1h 7min
December 17, 2025 Musician: Mark THIS Day on Your Calendar!
JANUARY 6TH, 2026 - SEASON 4 of TRUST THE PROCESS DROPS!
Man, the guests we have lined up for this season are so amazing.
I am so excited to share them with you!
We talk about the 42 pound HEAD
We talk about the MISTAKE most music educators make (and how to avoid it!) when it comes to their student's wellbeing
We talk about how to become your own HERO through your injury recovery
And SO MUCH MORE!
Keep on keepin' on, and I will see you JANUARY 6TH, 2026!
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March 27, 2025 YOU ARE WORTH IT! - Highlights from Season 3!
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Another season of Trust the Process has come and gone!

I love doing these highlight reels because I get to actually listen to the episodes in depth to put them together for you!

I hope you have learned much and applied even more, to your recovery journey or your prevention journey as well.

Most of all, I hope that you feel know that you are worth it. You are worth the extra time that investing in prevention techniques will necessitate. You are worth the care that you need to recover from an injury, even if it means putting a strain on finances. Your career is worth it, because you are worth it.

We are entering a new and exciting time for the podcast because now that Musician Unchained is up and running, I will be going to grad school for applied performance psychology, to better serve you and our community!

In the offseason, reach out to tell me your experiences listening to the show!

Also, I have extremely limited space in my coaching program (at a HUGELY discounted rate btw) so reach out if that is something you want to explore!

Keep on keepin’ on!
If you are a musician going through injury, a music educator trying to help one, or a musician just trying to make it in life, then you need to listen to EVERY episode of this up and coming show!

Join our Facebook support group here

Subscribe now and let's embark on this transformative journey together!

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1h 23min
March 25, 2025 You Won’t See Practicing/Injury Recovery the Same After This…with Alison Garner
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I love getting to interview people who are referred to me from previous guests!

Especially ones who are trained in NLP and love teaching like I do!

In this episode, Alison Garner shares her story of how her injury led her to learn about somatic awareness, essentially how our body interprets and reacts to stress and anxiety

She shares how the gaining of her own sense of curiosity has helped her develop a curriculum (Musical Minds, check it out in the link below!), and help countless clients transform their playing, recover from injuries, and more.

One of my favorite things to talk about: the impact of teachers on students, is something that Alison knows a thing or two about, and she doesn’t hold back here!

Not a better way to end our interviews from season 3!

Keep on keepin’ on!

Check out Musical Minds here!
If you are a musician going through injury, a music educator trying to help one, or a musician just trying to make it in life, then you need to listen to EVERY episode of this up and coming show!

Join our Facebook support group here

Subscribe now and let's embark on this transformative journey together!

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1h 19min
March 20, 2025 You Have Been Given a Gift!
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Today's message is simple.

Imagine if someone gave you a random seed, and you didn't know what it would turn into?

What would happen if you planted it?

What would happen if you took care of it?

Your injury is that seed. You have the choice to plant it or not, and see if it will grow into something beautiful.

It will take work, but it will be worth it!

Keep on keepin' on!

If you are a musician going through injury, a music educator trying to help one, or a musician just trying to make it in life, then you need to listen to EVERY episode of this up and coming show!

Join our Facebook support group here

Subscribe now and let's embark on this transformative journey together!

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March 18, 2025 The Message Every Music Educator Needs to Hear with Dr Jordi Albert
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This show has primarily addressed the difficulties that injured musicians deal with

That was my goal from the start

Dr Jordi Albert helped me realize that there is another group of individuals who also deal with a lot - those who help injured musicians rehabilitate

The fact is, there are not a lot of practitioners out there who really know how to help injured musicians rehabilitate and come back from injury, in physical, psychological, and pedagogical ways

That means that those that do know how become quite inundated with pleas for help

I wish there were more of us to share the load, and make these resources more accessible to musicians

One day we will reach that goal

Dr Jordi Albert clues us into those struggles and how to stay balanced through them

This episode covers a lot of ground, Dr Albert knows his stuff (he even got braces just to research how to play trumpet healthily with them!)

But our message to you wonderful educators and practitioners is - keep on keepin' on. You are doing amazing work!
If you are a musician going through injury, a music educator trying to help one, or a musician just trying to make it in life, then you need to listen to EVERY episode of this up and coming show!

Join our Facebook support group here

Subscribe now and let's embark on this transformative journey together!

Follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/trust_the_process_podcast?igshid=OGQ5ZDc2ODk2ZA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr

Check us out on Facebook here: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61554440125506&mibextid=2JQ9oc

Email me with guest suggestions and other feedback at [email protected]

Visit our YouTube channel here: www.youtube.com/@TrusttheProcessPodcast24

Follow us on Apple Podcasts here:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trust-the-process-podcast/id1721949982

Follow us on Spotify here:

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1h 48min

FAQs about Trust the Process Podcast:

How many episodes does Trust the Process Podcast have?

The podcast currently has 94 episodes available.