How a Burnt Brillo Pad Changed Everything

In this deeply special and one-of-a-kind conversation, Joanne sits down with her longtime mentor and beloved friend Laura Sullivan, the woman behind Hair Harmonics and one of the most unique healing arts in the world. Laura's path began in New York working in television and film production, then carried her to Los Angeles as a working actress. She was cast as the lead in a 400-seat theater production, her biggest break to date, when a Beverly Hills hairdresser left a body wave solution on too long and burned her hair to a crisp. A few weeks later, a chance meeting at a workshop led her to a man named Mercury who spoke about working with hair as sacred geometry. She had no idea what it meant, but she knew she needed it. She walked out of that session feeling something she had never felt before in her hair, something alive. And from that moment, an entirely different life quietly began.

Your Hair Is Alive and It Has Been This Whole Time

Laura makes a case here that is both ancient and newly backed by science. Your hair is not dead. Every follicle forms in the first trimester in utero because hair is an essential part of your nervous system. It reaches out beyond the body, picks up information from the environment and signals back to the brain. Those goosebumps you get when you hear something true? That is your hair talking. Laura walks us through what a Hair Harmonics session actually looks like, from the silk-draped chair and grounding ritual before anything is touched, to the sacred geometry pattern of cuts that literally connects the hair to the body's meridians. She shares how her own hair transformed from long and straight to naturally curly, how men have come to her for decades just to stop hair loss, and why the healthiest hair has always been the most beautiful. Not because of how it looks, but because of the energy it carries.

What Your Hair Is Trying to Tell You

Laura lost her hair three times in her life due to stress, including after losing her son at full term during delivery and surviving three emergency surgeries in the weeks that followed. She talks openly about what that experience taught her about how the body prioritizes nutrients under extreme stress and why hair is always the first thing to go. Then she shifts into something even more tender. For anyone out there who has spent years fighting their hair, forcing it into something it is not, or simply never feeling at home with it, Laura's invitation is this: start by acknowledging it is alive. Talk to it. Praise it for what it is doing, even if it is not yet doing everything you want. Because your hair has a consciousness. When you treat it like a precious friend instead of a daily battle, something shifts. This episode is a reminder that sometimes the most powerful healing tool we have has been right on top of our heads all along.
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Chapters
01:41 Welcoming Laura Sullivan and Hair Harmonics 02:44 From New York Television to Los Angeles Actress 03:38 The Big Break, the Beverly Hills Hairdresser, and the Brillo Pad 05:05 Meeting Mercury and the First Hair Balancing Session 06:34 Learning the Work and Becoming the Last Person Who Knew How 07:51 His Malibu Clients Found Her and Everything Changed 09:44 Hair Is Alive: What Science Is Finally Catching Up To 11:08 Hair as Part of the Nervous System and How It Communicates 13:45 Making Your Hair an Ally Instead of an Enemy 14:53 What a Hair Harmonics Session Actually Looks Like 16:54 Sacred Geometry, Meridians, and the Healing That Happens 18:22 How Hair Transforms Through Balancing 20:20 Hair Loss: Why It Happens and What to Do About It 23:12 Nutrients, B Vitamins, and Getting Ahead of Stress-Induced Hair Loss 26:12 Who Is Hair Balancing For? 29:45 The Healthiest Hair Is the Most Beautiful 31:02 It Is More Than a Haircut. It Is a Healing. 32:12 For Anyone Who Has Spent Years Fighting Their Hair 33:26 Talk to Your Hair and Listen Back 35:18 Balancing Hair as a Stylist: Why It Renews Instead of Drains

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From the ER to the Soapmaking

In this warm, wise, and deeply honest conversation, Joanne sits down with her longtime friend and fellow industry veteran Dr. Sarah Villafranco, the physician turned founder behind Osmia Skincare. Sarah spent ten years as an ER doctor, showing up for people during the hardest moments of their lives. But something was quietly burning out inside her. After losing her mother and with a three-month-old on her hip and a head full of grief, Sarah signed up for a soapmaking class at a local ranch in Colorado. And everything changed. She talks about what it felt like to hold that spark inside herself before she was ready to say it out loud, how her mother's voice from the other side gave her the courage to finally go for it, and what it looks like to leave one calling and step fully into another.

What Goes On Your Body Matters More Than You Think

Sarah has never been afraid to say what she knows. In this part of the conversation, she pulls no punches about the two ingredients she would remove from everyone's life if she could: synthetic fragrance and sodium lauryl sulfate. She explains why the data around synthetic fragrance is pointing somewhere we cannot ignore, why dermatitis, eczema, and even some autoimmune patterns may have more to do with our daily products than we realize, and how she actually discovered the power of Osmia's black clay facial soap by using herself as the test subject. This is the kind of conversation that makes you go home and read every label in your bathroom, in the very best way.

How Good Are You Willing to Have It

There is a question Joanne once asked Sarah at an event in Denver that Sarah has never forgotten. How good are you willing to have it? Sarah carries it into her meditation practice now, and she shared it here with all of us. This final part of the conversation opens into something bigger than skincare. Sarah gets honest about aging, about the days she looks in the mirror and hears the mean girl voice, and about how catching that voice has become its own form of progress. She talks about what she truly wants for her daughters, why she refuses to center her brand around anti-aging, and why doing good work and good work together is the answer she always comes back to when she starts comparing herself to others. Fifteen years in and still going, Sarah is a reminder that staying rooted in your purpose is its own kind of beauty.

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Chapters

01:41 Welcoming Dr. Sarah Villafranco 03:31 Ten Years in Emergency Medicine and What Felt Unsettled 06:29 Losing Her Mother and the Moment That Changed Everything 09:24 The Soap Making Class That Lit Her Up 10:23 Holding the Spark Before She Was Ready to Share It 12:12 Courage to Pivot and a Husband Who Said Yes 12:54 What Researching Skincare Ingredients Revealed 15:16 The Problem with Synthetic Fragrance 17:11 Two Things to Ditch for Healthier Skin 18:43 Sulfates, Dermatitis, and Why Your Skin Might Be Struggling 21:03 Expanding Our Definition of Beauty 27:08 Inside Osmia's Products: Where It All Started 28:46 Perioral Dermatitis and the Black Clay Facial Soap 32:42 What Is Lighting Her Up Right Now 35:03 Seasonal Scents and the Craft Series 37:50 How Good Are You Willing to Have It

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The Curious Girl Who Never Stopped Asking Why

In this exciting and moving conversation, Joanne sits down with Aubry Bracco, Survivor 50 winner, marketing consultant and one of those rare people who makes you feel truly seen the moment she enters the room. Long before the world knew her as a four-time Survivor competitor, Aubry was a serious, curious little girl who always wanted to sit at the adult table. She played the harp for more than 10 years, dreamed of becoming a newspaper journalist and spent her career learning how to slip into other people's worlds and truly understand them. She helps executives show up authentically, telling stories that feel true to the person in the room and always looking for what’s real beneath the surface. This episode starts right there, with who she was before any of it, and what it finally took for her to turn the lens on herself.

Seven Years, One More Chance and a Leap of Faith

Aubry shared about what most people never saw coming: a third Survivor season that broke something in her, seven years of doing the real inner work and an unexpected phone call in 2024. She said yes. In this part of the conversation, Joanne and Aubry dig into what it actually felt like to let go of the outcome while staying grounded in herself and why working with an intuitive healer helped her find her way back to trusting her own voice. The victories that matter most, it turns out, tend to happen in the quiet moments before anyone else is paying attention.

It Was Never About Winning. It Was About Becoming.

This episode is about so much more than Survivor. Aubry talks about how the game taught her to stay present in her body while reading the entire room around her, and how a cold email from CEO coach Mark Moses during COVID turned into one of the most meaningful professional relationships of her life. She shares his four daily questions, which she used every single morning on Survivor 50, and the simple but powerful mantra she carries now for anyone standing at the edge of giving up: keep the faith, keep going, because sometimes one small shift in energy is all it takes to change everything.

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Chapters

01:41 Welcoming Aubry Bracco to Trust Your Innersense 

02:08 How This Conversation Came to Be — and Finding Out She Won 

04:47 Growing Up: Curiosity, the Harp, and Never Quitting 

08:35 Emotional Intelligence and the Heart of a Journalist 

10:05 From Publicist to Survivor: Understanding People Deeply 

12:05 What Survivor Is Really Like Behind the Cameras 

15:09 Telling Her Own Story for the First Time 

16:20 A Panic Attack, a Breakthrough, and a Leap of Faith 

19:00 Seven Years of Inner Work and One More Chance 

21:15 Learning to Let Go and Trust Herself Again 

22:59 After the Game: Messy Moments and Moving Forward 

29:04 The Greatest Gift: Transformation and Unexpected Connections 

30:43 How Mark Moses Changed Everything 

32:17 Words of Wisdom: Keep the Faith and Keep Going 

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A Mother's Intuition Changed Everything

In this nourishing and inspiring conversation, Joanne sits down with Cassandra Curtis, co-founder and Chief Innovation Officer of Once Upon a Farm. Cassandra's story begins in a kitchen, with a mother's love and a deep desire to do better for her children. Unable to find refrigerated, truly fresh baby food on store shelves, Cassandra took matters into her own hands. What started as four hours of Sunday meal prep and a refrigerated van making deliveries across San Diego grew into one of the most trusted names in children's nutrition, now available in over 25,000 stores across the US, Canada and more!

Nourishing Families Without Compromise

Cassandra pulls back the curtain on what it actually takes to build a food brand rooted in integrity, from the science behind HPP (High Pressure Pasteurization), the technology that keeps Once Upon a Farm's food as close to fresh as possible, to the non-negotiables that have guided every decision. Together, Joanne and Cassandra explore what it means to protect the heart of a brand as it scales, why organic and clean ingredient labels matter more than ever for our youngest eaters, and how a simple but powerful mantra that says “find a way or make one” carried Cassandra through highs and lows of entrepreneurship.

Staying Rooted While Reaching Further

This was more than a conversation about baby food, this episode is a beautiful reminder that the most meaningful things we create often begin with listening to our instincts, to our children, and to that quiet inner voice telling us something can be better. Cassandra shares how yoga, music, and time with family keep her grounded as the business continues to grow, and what she hopes her three children understand about why she built it. Whether you are a parent, an entrepreneur, or someone learning to trust their own vision, this conversation will leave you feeling encouraged to follow that voice and nourish what matters most.

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Chapters

01:02 Introducing Cassandra Curtis and Once Upon a Farm 02:02 Growing Up with an Entrepreneurial Spirit 05:34 Raising Adventurous Eaters — Tips for Parents 11:35 The Origin Story: From Kitchen to Refrigerated Van 14:36 What Is HPP and Why Does It Matter? 18:57 The Entrepreneurial Journey: Highs, Lows, and Letting Go 23:11 Going Public and Protecting the Heart of the Brand 25:14 What Building Once Upon a Farm Taught Her About Herself 27:17 Staying Grounded Through Yoga, Music, and Family 30:00 What She Hopes Her Children Understand 34:30 Words of Wisdom and Closing Reflections

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From Waikiki to Beauty Heroes

In this warm conversation, Joanne sits down with Jeannie Jarnot, founder of Beauty Heroes and a passionate advocate for conscious, clean beauty. Raised in Hawaii where the hotel lobbies of Waikiki were her playground, Jeannie uses her deep sense of hospitality into everything she creates. From her early career as a spa director to building one of the most trusted curated clean beauty destinations in the world, Jeannie shares how a lifetime of asking better questions about what we put on our bodies led her to create something truly meaningful. Her philosophy is simple and profound: it should not be this hard to know what is actually in your products.

A Personal Wake-Up Call That Changed Everything

Jeannie opens up about the deeply personal experience that became the heart of Beauty Heroes. When she was diagnosed with a hormone disorder and infertility in her early thirties, a quiet but undeniable connection began to form between the hormone-disrupting ingredients she had been studying professionally and what was quietly sitting on her own bathroom shelves. What followed was a courageous, thorough overhaul of everything in her home, and within months, the natural pregnancy she had stopped believing was possible. Together, Joanne and Jeannie discuss how listening to your body, trusting your instincts and being willing to look a little closer can lead you exactly where you are meant to go.

Live Lighter, Love More

Jeannie’s business motto, Live Lighter, Love More is a philosophy that shapes how she moves through every area of her life. From the products she carefully curates at Beauty Heroes to the way she is raising her son and how she thinks about the planet we all share. In this conversation, they discuss the beauty of choosing quality over quantity, why living more consciously does not have to mean sacrifice or extremes and the exciting next chapter Jeannie is stepping into with courage and curiosity. This episode is a beautiful reminder that every small, intentional choice we make has the power to ripple outward for ourselves, our families and the world around us.

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Chapters

01:45 Jeannie Jarnot's Path to Conscious Beauty

10:02 When the Personal Became the Professional

16:59 The Gift of Motherhood and New Perspective

19:57 Live Lighter, Love More: A Philosophy for Life

27:09 Inside the Beauty Heroes Experience

32:01 What's Next: Future Dreams and New Ventures

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Rooted in Grace

In this heartfelt conversation, Joanne sits down with curl specialist, educator, and founder of Desert Curls Studio, Loni Jean Lafinier. Known to many as @‌desertcurlsstudio on Instagram, Loni Jean has spent years dedicated to helping people embrace their natural beauty and see themselves more fully. But behind every beautifully crafted curl is a woman whose strength was forged through some of life's most difficult seasons. Born into hardship and raised in uncertainty, Loni Jean shares with her humor and raw honesty how a childhood marked by addiction, abandonment and instability became the very foundation of her empathy, grace, and deep sense of purpose.

What the Chair Teaches Us

Loni Jean opens up about the profound parallels between healing and the work she does behind the chair every single day. From the client who worried about hair color during pregnancy to the simple, sacred act of feeling truly seen and heard, Joanne and Loni Jean explore how showing up authentically transformed both of their businesses and their lives. They discuss the power of vulnerability, the courage it takes to let people in and how the conversations that happen in a salon chair so often go far deeper than hair.

Healing Ourselves, Healing Each Other

More than a conversation about curls, this episode is a gentle and honest reminder that our wounds do not define us and that the inner work we do on ourselves ripples far beyond this moment in time. Loni Jean shares her long journey in therapy, the healing she has found in forgiving her mother and the deep personal growth happening in real time as she learns to listen to her body, release old abandonment wounds and trust herself more fully. Whether you are a beauty professional, a woman doing the hard inner work or simply someone who needs to hear that they are not alone, this conversation will leave you feeling held, seen and inspired to extend a little more grace to yourself today.

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Chapters:
05:26 Family background and personal influences
06:48 Growing up with family challenges
10:26 Childhood cul-de-sac memories
14:01 Talking about relationships and therapy
17:09 Reflecting on a mentor relationship
19:53 Reflecting on personal growth and influence
23:55 Embracing authenticity behind the chair
27:56 Feeling and managing emotions
31:15 Talking about life lessons
35:04 Mentoring Winter and Miriam
38:22 Focusing on passion in the salon
41:28 Embracing authentic beauty and self-worth

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Hair Is Never Just Hair

In this meaningful conversation, Joanne sits down with hairstylist, educator, advocate and founder of the Dresscode Project, Kristin Rankin. What began with a simple rainbow sticker in the window of their Toronto salon grew into a global movement after a transgender woman shared that it was the first time in five years she had received a haircut and truly felt like herself. That powerful experience inspired Kristin to challenge long-standing industry norms and create welcoming, gender-affirming spaces where every person can feel seen, safe and celebrated for exactly who they are.

Creating Belonging Behind The Chair

Kristin shares the heart behind the Dresscode Project and the Gender-Free Haircut Club, which provides free gender-affirming haircuts for marginalized queer communities through the generosity of volunteer hairstylists. Together, Joanne and Kristin explore how something as simple as a haircut can restore confidence, affirm identity and even change or save a life. They also discuss the importance of challenging outdated practices, embracing inclusivity and recognizing that salons have the power to become spaces of healing, trust and human connection.

The Courage To Lead With Compassion

More than a conversation about hair, this episode is an invitation to lead with empathy and create environments where everyone belongs. Kristin reflects on building a grassroots movement that now includes hundreds of salons around the world, the lessons learned through listening and why meaningful change begins with small, intentional actions. Whether you're a beauty professional or simply someone who wants to make the world a little more welcoming, this conversation is a beautiful reminder that compassion, inclusion and authenticity have the power to transform lives, one person, one chair and one conversation at a time.

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Chapters

00:00 Transforming the Beauty Industry
07:56 The Birth of the Dress Code Project
13:11 Creating Safe Spaces in Salons
18:46 The Impact of Hair on Identity
22:49 The Gender-Free Haircut Club
27:39 Envisioning the Future of Beauty
30:09 Closing Thoughts and Community Engagement

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From Grief To Growth

In this heartfelt conversation, Joanne sits down with Karen Gordon, a certified trichologist, educator and founder of Karen Gordon Hair Loss Solutions. After spending more than four decades in the beauty industry, Karen reflects on the profound loss of her husband, renowned hairstylist Jerry Gordon, founder of the double-shifting salon system and a respected mentor who influenced generations of hair professionals. She shares how grief reshaped her life, leading her to embrace evolution over reinvention and inspiring a more compassionate way of living. Through her journey, Karen reminds us that learning to trust ourselves, spend time alone and allow life to unfold naturally can become some of our greatest teachers.

What Your Hair Is Trying To Tell You

Karen explains why hair loss is rarely just about hair. From hormonal shifts, thyroid conditions, stress, PCOS and nutritional deficiencies to the impact of inflammation and overall health, she reveals how our hair often reflects what's happening beneath the surface. Rather than focusing only on external treatments, she encourages listeners to look for the root cause and understand that, in many cases, hair loss is not hopeless. With patience, personalized care and a whole-body approach, healthy hair can often be restored while supporting overall wellness.

Listening To The Wisdom Within

Beyond the science of hair health, this conversation is a beautiful reminder that healing begins when we learn to listen more deeply to our bodies, our intuition and our own needs. Karen shares how giving herself permission to say no, travel alone and trust life's unfolding became part of her own healing journey. Whether you're navigating hair loss, grief, a season of uncertainty or simply longing to reconnect with yourself, this episode offers gentle wisdom for honoring where you've been while embracing the person you're continually becoming.

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Chapters

00:00 The Journey of Healing and Growth
01:59 Karen's Personal Story and Professional Journey
04:30 Understanding Grief and Its Surprises
06:07 Evolution vs. Reinvention: A New Perspective
07:42 Self-Compassion and the Importance of Alone Time
09:14 The Process of Writing a Book
11:20 Giving Ourselves Permission to Evolve
13:06 Understanding Hair Loss: A Deeper Look
15:18 Hidden Factors Influencing Hair and Scalp Health
17:59 The Emotional Impact of Hair Loss
19:55 Discovering Strengths Through Healing
21:57 Cultural Significance of Hair
25:05 The Empowering Field of Hair Replacement
26:48 Listening to Your Inner Voice

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From Epilepsy To Empowerment
In this inspiring conversation, Joanne sits down with holistic health educator, author, speaker and co-founder of Holistic Health Educators and Lilly Fields Wellness Center, Karen "ZuZu" Ziemer Armes. As a young girl living with epilepsy, Zuzu carried a bell with her everywhere in case a seizure struck without warning. Years later, after discovering she was pregnant with her first child, she felt called to find a different path for her health. That journey sparked a deep exploration into nutrition and the body's innate ability to heal, ultimately changing the course of her life. Today, she helps others uncover the root causes of their symptoms while inspiring hope that our bodies possess an extraordinary capacity for healing when given the support they need.

Every Symptom Has A Story
One of Zuzu's core beliefs is that symptoms are not mistakes but clues pointing us toward imbalance. Together, Joanne and Zuzu explore why healing begins by asking "why" instead of simply masking discomfort. From gut health and hydration to chiropractic care, acupuncture, nutrient-dense foods and reducing everyday toxins, she explains how small, intentional changes can create profound shifts in our wellbeing. Her message is both empowering and deeply hopeful: when we learn to listen to our bodies instead of fighting them, they often show us exactly what they need.

Choosing Life Every Single Day
Drawing on more than four decades of studying natural health, raising twelve children and helping thousands of people transform their wellbeing, Zuzu shares practical wisdom for living a vibrant, healthy life. She offers simple ways to prepare nourishing meals, reduce toxic exposures and make wellness feel achievable even in the busiest seasons. She also introduces Lilly Fields Wellness Center, where people can immerse themselves in hands-on healing experiences that reconnect them with the wisdom of their own bodies. This conversation is a beautiful reminder that healing isn't about perfection. It's about becoming curious, honoring your body's messages and choosing life, one small step at a time.

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Chapters

00:00 Journey of Healing and Understanding Epilepsy
07:01 The Turning Point: Pregnancy and Health Transformation
12:07 Symptoms as Messages: Understanding the Body's Signals
17:10 Navigating Conflicting Health Information
20:53 Empowerment Through Self-Care
22:54 The Impact of EMFs on Health
26:31 Nutrition and Grounding for Wellness
31:34 Real-Life Wellness Strategies
34:00 Lily's Fields Retreat Center: A Healing Space
37:34 A Message of Hope and Healing

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As the day comes to a close, this gentle guided meditation invites you to slow down, breathe deeply and return to yourself.

Created to be experienced alongside your Innersense Organic Beauty Overnight Repair Serum* ritual, this calming practice transforms your evening hair care routine into a moment of restoration, releasing the weight of the day while nourishing both body and spirit.

As the serum works through the night to restore and strengthen your hair, allow this meditation to create space for deep rest, renewal and the quiet transformation that unfolds while you sleep.

Trust your Innersense and awaken feeling more grounded, restored and connected to the wisdom within.

• Innersense Organic Beauty Overnight Repair Serum launches August 25, 2026 on innersensebeauty.com

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