In this conversation, Angelique and Toby share personal updates, patient experiences, and insights into the challenges and realities of clinical practice. The discussion covers the transition from Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) to the Saam system, the importance of trusting the medicine, and the complexities of patient care. They also delve into the nuances of herbal medicine, including modifications and patient compliance, and explore the concept of Ying Qi and its significance in Chinese medicine.TakeawaysThe transition from TCM to Saam can be challenging.Trusting the medicine is crucial for practitioners.Herbal modifications can enhance treatment effectiveness.Understanding Ying Qi is essential in Chinese medicine.Navigating patient complexity sometimes requires a simple approach.The relationship between Ying Qi and Wei Qi can be helpful clinically.Clinical practice evolves with experience and reflection.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Office Hours 01:07 Patient Update: Birth Experience04:51 Practitioner Assumptions vs. Reality08:27 Trusting the Medicine and Self12:00 Herbal Medicine Practices15:47 Ying Qi: Understanding and ApplicationsKeywordsacupuncture, TCM, Saam, herbal medicine, patient care, practitioner experience, trust in medicine, ying qi, clinical practice, Chinese medicine