Amanda sits down with Kiersten Hathcock to explore intuition, identity, reinvention, and what it means to trust yourself when life asks you to take a leap that doesn’t make sense on paper.

Together, they talk about following an inner pull that defies logic — from building a business out of a garage to stepping into deeply unexpected work supporting law enforcement and grieving families. Kiersten shares how her journey has been shaped not by certainty, but by a quiet, persistent knowing.

This conversation is for anyone who feels called toward something they can’t fully explain — those standing at the edge of change, wondering if they can trust what they feel.