作为 TT客厅 2025 年第一季的最后一期，我已经从纽约搬回了 SF，开始了一个新的篇章，——这也是我第二次从东海岸搬到西海岸，所以这期对我来说格外特别，也作为这一年的一个结尾。录这期视频的时候，我们迎来了一位刚从 SF 搬到 NY 的朋友，同时也准备送别一位即将告别纽约、搬回湾区的朋友。在纽约建立社群、组织活动的过程中，我经常会认识一些在加州和纽约都生活过的朋友。虽然大家的轨迹看起来略有重合，但最终都成长成了非常不一样的人。这次的话题，围绕着我们如何在一次次搬来搬去的过程中找到、定义自己，以及这些流动的轨迹给个人和身边关系带来的影响展开。在异国他乡不断改变地理坐标的同时，我们也在重构自己的心理的锚点。

As the final episode of T’s Living Room in 2025, I’ve recently moved back to SF from New York. This is my second time relocating from the East Coast to the West Coast, which makes this episode especially meaningful to me—almost like a natural way to close out the year.

When we recorded this episode, we were welcoming a guest who had just moved from SF to New York, while saying goodbye to another guest who was leaving New York and heading back to the Bay Area. Through building community and organizing events in New York, I’ve met many people who have lived in both California and New York. Even though our paths may look similar on the surface, we’ve all grown into very different people. In this conversation, we talk about how we find and define ourselves through repeated moves, and how these trajectories shape both who we become and the relationships around us. As we continue to change our physical coordinates in a foreign place, we’re also rebuilding our mental anchors.

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具体内容Content Breakdown：

1’57 嘉宾介绍 Guest Introduction

6’02 搬家的自主性 Agency in Moving

8‘51 当选择不尽人意的时候我们怎么办 What Do We Do When Our Choices Don’t Turn Out as Expected

11‘00 临时生活和过客心态 Temporary Living & the “Passenger” Mindset

13‘31 跟随生活地点改变的心态和性格 How Place Shapes Our Mindset and Personality

15‘00 在不同地方的生活节奏中找自己 Finding Ourselves Through Different Rhythms of Life

19‘00 生活的盼头 What Keeps Us Going

21‘35 重构生活的优先级 Rebuilding Priorities

23‘22 搬家中影响的人际关系 How Moving Reshapes Our Relationships

26’58 快问快答 Rapid-Fire Q&A

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欢迎大家在以下平台关注我们 Please find us at platforms below:

1. 小红书 （RedNote）：@TT客厅
2. Youtube Channel： www.youtube.com/@TsLivingRoom
3. B站：https://space.bilibili.com/3493266265737814
4. 小宇宙：https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/6796f93fce6dc065d2f6a87e
5. Spotify：https://open.spotify.com/show/6CGyl1XCXXOk3JUkUTV0PW?si=WKssHVYSQEiA6hmM4hv7xA
6. Apple Podcast：https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ts-living-room-|-tt客厅/id1794018107

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✨TT客厅是一档中英双语的视频播客，以自我探索与成长为切入点，展开与不同背景朋友的真实对话。话题涵盖个人经历、职业路径与文化观察等广泛议题，在轻松真诚的交流中连接彼此，搭建一个分享和产生共鸣的空间。欢迎大家一键三连最新的片段。✨T’s Living Room is a bilingual video podcast in Chinese and English, using self-exploration and personal growth as a starting point for authentic conversations with people from diverse backgrounds. Covering a wide range of topics—from personal journeys and career paths to cultural reflections—the podcast creates a relaxed and sincere space for sharing, connection, and mutual resonance.

这一期的 TT客厅录于初夏的纽约。作为一个和时尚圈八竿子打不着的人，我因为机缘巧合认识了 Akio，从而有幸结识了三位原本陌生的朋友，也因此窥见了一个自己平时完全接触不到的时尚世界。Akio定居在意大利米兰，此次短期在纽约停留，拥有跨越欧洲、美国与中国的丰富时尚与艺术策展经验；Joanna 是在追逐设计梦想的过程中最终圆梦的Tory Burch 纽约设计师；而 Joyce 则早已把她所在珠宝品牌的公关团队当成了家人，同时又以时尚摄影师的身份活跃在各大秀场。和这几位在不同维度深耕时尚行业的朋友聊天，我们谈到不同国家地区的审美偏好，文化叙事与身份表达，如何在跨文化的时尚界工作中保持自我表达，怎样 “curate” 自己的人生与职业路径，以及如何在艺术与商业之间找到动态的平衡。从设计到叙事，从风格到身份——这是一场关于表达、选择与自我构建的对话。

As someone who’s never really had any connection to the fashion world, I somehow got lucky — through meeting Akio — to be introduced to three new friends, and had a peek into a world I’d never normally be part of. Akio, based in Milan and spending a short time in New York, has rich experience curating fashion and art projects across Europe, the U.S., and China. Joanna is a designer at Tory Burch in New York — someone who turned her long-time design dream into reality. And Joyce, who works in branding and PR at a jewelry company, sees her team as family, while also pursuing her passion as a fashion photographer across major runways and shows.

In our conversation, we talked about different aesthetic preferences across cultures, the relationship between storytelling and identity, and what it means to maintain authentic self-expression while working in a global fashion landscape. We also discussed how to curate one’s own life and career path, and how to find a dynamic balance between art and commerce. From design to storytelling, from style to identity — this is a dialogue about expression, choice, and self-construction.

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具体内容Content Breakdown：

start- 1’19 嘉宾介绍 Guest Introduction

1’27 在欧洲/美国/中国时尚行业的工作经历 Working experiences in the fashion industries across Europe, the U.S., and China

4‘13 不同市场的审美 Aesthetics in different markets

5‘51 少数族裔在跨文化时尚工作中的身份认同和自我表达 Identity and self-expression as minorities in cross-cultural fashion work

8‘58 时尚的速度-意大利vs美国 The pace of fashion: Italy vs. the U.S.

10‘04 时尚的“量化标准”- 艺术性vs 商业性 The “metrics” of fashion: artistry vs. commercial value

11‘27 纽约不同的时尚种类 Different kinds of fashion scenes in New York

12‘42 curate自己的人生/定义自己的personal brand Curating one’s own life and defining a personal brand

17’04 快问快答 Rapid-Fire Q&A

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欢迎大家在以下平台关注我们 Please find us at platforms below:

1. 小红书 （RedNote）：@TT客厅
2. Youtube Channel： www.youtube.com/@TsLivingRoom
3. B站：https://space.bilibili.com/3493266265737814
4. 小宇宙：https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/6796f93fce6dc065d2f6a87e
5. Spotify：https://open.spotify.com/show/6CGyl1XCXXOk3JUkUTV0PW?si=WKssHVYSQEiA6hmM4hv7xA
6. Apple Podcast：https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ts-living-room-|-tt客厅/id1794018107

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✨TT客厅是一档中英双语的视频播客，以自我探索与成长为切入点，展开与不同背景朋友的真实对话。话题涵盖个人经历、职业路径与文化观察等广泛议题，在轻松真诚的交流中连接彼此，搭建一个分享和产生共鸣的空间。欢迎大家一键三连最新的片段。✨T’s Living Room is a bilingual video podcast in Chinese and English, using self-exploration and personal growth as a starting point for authentic conversations with people from diverse backgrounds. Covering a wide range of topics—from personal journeys and career paths to cultural reflections—the podcast creates a relaxed and sincere space for sharing, connection, and mutual resonance.

这期 TT客厅邀请了几位在纽约不同人生阶段的朋友，聊聊交友。毕业后几年，大家常常会感受到社会与学校里截然不同的交友模式：有人仍渴望一个核心圈子，也有人觉得一对一才是常态。有人发现拓宽交际圈后友情不再“纯粹”，有人则把兴趣爱好中的“搭子”变成了朋友。作为常常搬家、朋友分散在世界各地的海外中国人，我们也谈到阶段性友情和跨文化交友，以及友情中的边界感与社会对“friendship breakup”伤害的忽视。

In this episode of TT’s Living Room, I invited friends in New York at different life stages to talk about friendship. A few years after graduation, many of us have noticed how making friends—especially in a big city—differs from school: some still long for a core group, while others find one-on-one connections more natural. Some realize that widening their social circle makes certain friendships feel more “transactional,” while others turn hobby partners into acquaintances and eventually close friends. As Chinese living abroad—moving often, with friends scattered across the world—we also discussed periodic friendships, cross-cultural connections, setting boundaries, and the need to normalize the idea of a “friendship breakup.”

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具体内容Content Breakdown：

1’49 嘉宾介绍 Guest Introduction

2’10 在纽约朋友的来源 Making Friends in New York

3’23 在学校 vs. 社会后的交友 Friendship in School vs. Adulthood

4’48 Transactional的朋友 / 友情分类 Transactional Friends & Types of Friendships

7’12 T/F人交友？ Personality Types (T/F) in Friendship

9’16 阶段性友情 & 流动性 Friendship by Phases: Is It Fluid?

11’46 小团体友情 vs. 1对1 Cliques or Not？

13’31 兴趣爱好中的友情 & 搭子 Hobbies, Interests, and “Buddy” Culture

14’22 重拾与失去的友情 Rekindled and Lost Friendships

15’52 主动 vs. 被动 & 边界感 Active vs. Passive Roles & Boundaries in Friendship

18’48 跨文化交友 Cross-Cultural Friendships

22’19 快问快答 Rapid-Fire Q&A

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欢迎大家在以下平台关注我们 Please find us at platforms below:

1. 小红书 （RedNote）：@TT客厅
2. Youtube Channel： www.youtube.com/@TsLivingRoom
3. B站：https://space.bilibili.com/3493266265737814
4. 小宇宙：https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/6796f93fce6dc065d2f6a87e
5. Spotify：https://open.spotify.com/show/6CGyl1XCXXOk3JUkUTV0PW?si=WKssHVYSQEiA6hmM4hv7xA
6. Apple Podcast：https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ts-living-room-|-tt客厅/id1794018107

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✨TT客厅是一档中英双语的视频播客，以自我探索与成长为切入点，展开与不同背景朋友的真实对话。话题涵盖个人经历、职业路径与文化观察等广泛议题，在轻松真诚的交流中连接彼此，搭建一个分享和产生共鸣的空间。欢迎大家一键三连最新的片段。✨T’s Living Room is a bilingual video podcast in Chinese and English, using self-exploration and personal growth as a starting point for authentic conversations with people from diverse backgrounds. Covering a wide range of topics—from personal journeys and career paths to cultural reflections—the podcast creates a relaxed and sincere space for sharing, connection, and mutual resonance.

本期TT客厅邀请了几位建筑、城市与平面设计师，聊聊他们在美国不同领域的经历、离开学校后的落差，以及对建筑行业的观察。从职场新人的话语权困境，到设计与商业价值的平衡，再到3D打印、品牌策划和空间平台的副业尝试，他们不仅在专业中不断探索与取舍，也在工作之外持续保持创造力。无论你是设计专业的学生、年轻职场人，还是对创造力充满好奇的人，都能在他们的经历里看到关于长期主义、决策力与跨界创造的启发。

In this episode of T’s Living Room, we sit down with architects, an urban designer, and a graphic designer to talk about their experiences working in different fields in the U.S., the discrepancy between academia and industry in design, and observations of the architecture industry. From navigating decision-making as junior designers, to balancing creativity with commercial value, and pursuing entrepreneurial efforts like 3D printing, brand strategy, and AI-driven platforms connecting brands with spaces — these designers show how creativity continues both within their professions and beyond. Whether you’re a design student, a young professional, or simply curious about creativity, you’ll find inspiration here in stories of long-term vision, decision-making, and cross-disciplinary creation.

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嘉宾Guests：

• Stella- USC+哥大建筑设计专业。主业经历residential/interior design，房产中介；创立3D打印品牌LR Design。USC + Columbia Architecture. Works in residential/interior design and real estate; co-founder of 3D printing brand LR Design.
• 小富- 哈工大+哥大建筑设计专业。主业经历commercial偏大型商场类的建筑设计，创立3D打印品牌LR Design。HIT + Columbia Architecture. Focuses on large-scale commercial projects; co-founder of LR Design.
• Alex- 北师大珠海+康奈尔城市设计专业。刚入职城市政策咨询的公司；建立Brandflows平台连接品牌与空间。BNU Zhuhai + Cornell Urban Design. Recently joined an urban policy consulting firm; founder of Brandflows, a platform connecting brands with spaces.
• Ran- 央美+ 马里兰艺术学院视觉设计专业。大型Agency/Apple graphic designer转行Microsoft product designer；疫情期间创建自己的branding服务公司。CAFA + Maryland Institute College of Art (Visual Design). From agency/Apple graphic design to Microsoft product design; founded her own branding service company during the pandemic.
• Tina- 学校和主业好像是和设计没啥关联但其实是个PPT女工+读的课程媒体设计运动到TT客厅的内容设计里做出了这些连接大家的自我探索轨迹的小节目 Host of T’s Living Room. Background in instructional design design; not a designer by title but a “PPT artisan” in consulting; curating this show to connect people through authentic stories of growth and self-exploration.

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具体内容Content Breakdown：

1’10 嘉宾介绍 Guest Introduction

2’40 离开学校以后对于“设计”的想法变化/落差 How perspectives on “design” change after leaving school

6‘46 初级设计师在工作中没有话语权/决策权？Do junior designers have a say in decision-making?

10‘03 如何从小白变成决策人？From beginner to decision-maker: how the shift happens

11’07 建筑行业观察/建筑师的角色 Observations on the architecture industry & the role of architects

14’18 设计背后的价值和商业化的平衡 Balancing creative value with commercial demands

16’33 小富+Stella的LR Design3D打印品牌 Xiaofu & Stella’s LR Design 3D printing brand

18’42 Ran的品牌策划公司 Ran's Branding Agency

19’30 Alex- 连接品牌和空间的平台 Alex’s platform connecting brands with spaces

22’21 最大的挑战 The biggest challenges

23’51 持续创造的动力 The motivation behind continuous creation

25’26 对于对设计感兴趣的学生/年轻的自己的话 Advice for students and younger selves interested in design

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欢迎大家在以下平台关注我们 Please find us at platforms below:

1. 小红书 （RedNote）：@TT客厅
2. Youtube Channel： www.youtube.com/@TsLivingRoom
3. B站：https://space.bilibili.com/3493266265737814
4. 小宇宙：https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/6796f93fce6dc065d2f6a87e
5. Spotify：https://open.spotify.com/show/6CGyl1XCXXOk3JUkUTV0PW?si=WKssHVYSQEiA6hmM4hv7xA
6. Apple Podcast：https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ts-living-room-|-tt客厅/id1794018107

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✨TT客厅是一档中英双语的视频播客，以自我探索与成长为切入点，展开与不同背景朋友的真实对话。话题涵盖个人经历、职业路径与文化观察等广泛议题，在轻松真诚的交流中连接彼此，搭建一个分享和产生共鸣的空间。欢迎大家一键三连最新的片段。✨T’s Living Room is a bilingual video podcast in Chinese and English, using self-exploration and personal growth as a starting point for authentic conversations with people from diverse backgrounds. Covering a wide range of topics—from personal journeys and career paths to cultural reflections—the podcast creates a relaxed and sincere space for sharing, connection, and mutual resonance.

TT客厅首次议题类讨论！ 在这一期轻松又犀利的对谈中，我们聊聊在美国长期生活的中国人是如何看待情侣/约会中的AA（各付各的）文化的。AA到底是不是一种“独立”的表现？谁提出约会就该买单吗？女生要不要通过AA来证明不图钱？在异地文化中谈恋爱，金钱、时间、陪伴和情绪投入到底该怎么衡量？欢迎听听我们这些“在美打工人”的真实观察与思考。

T’s Living Room’s first ever topic-focused discussion! In this candid and lively episode, we explore how Chinese people living long-term in the U.S. think about splitting the bill (AA) in dating and relationships. Does splitting the bill signal independence? Should the person who initiates always pay? Do women need to go Dutch to prove they’re not “after your money”? In intercultural relationships, how do we measure emotional labor, time, money, and presence? Tune in for honest reflections from Chinese professionals navigating love abroad.

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具体内容Content Breakdown：

1’34 嘉宾介绍 Guest Introduction

2’14 恋爱/Dating中AA比例 Splitting Bills in Romantic Relationships

4‘16 Love language和观察对方付出的态度 Love Languages & How We Notice Effort

5‘10 女生是否需要AA证明自己的独立？Do Women Need to Split Bills to Show Independence?

6‘02 双向奔赴和陪伴价值 Mutual Effort and the Value of Presence & Company

6‘52 谁initiate谁付钱？If You Initiate, Should You Pay?

8‘35 男生请客是否有吸引力 Is It Attractive When Men Pick Up the Bill?

9‘24 是否AA是个筛选机制 Splitting Bills as a Filtering Mechanism

13‘05 选择约会的代价 The Cost of Choosing to Date

14‘44 如何建立约会中的金钱观 How to Build Your Own Money Mindset in Dating

16‘30 收入对于AA的影响 Income Gap & Its Impact on Splitting Bills

20‘30 情分和本分 Sentiment vs Obligation

21‘06 社会规范/social norm和谁来挑战 Social Norms & Who Gets to Challenge Them

22‘16 付出的不只是钱，也可以是时间 Contributions Beyond Money

24‘34 AA问题的本质 The Core of the Bill-Splitting Debate

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欢迎大家在以下平台关注我们 Please find us at platforms below:

1. 小红书 （RedNote）：@TT客厅
2. Youtube Channel： www.youtube.com/@TsLivingRoom
3. B站：https://space.bilibili.com/3493266265737814
4. 小宇宙：https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/6796f93fce6dc065d2f6a87e
5. Spotify：https://open.spotify.com/show/6CGyl1XCXXOk3JUkUTV0PW?si=WKssHVYSQEiA6hmM4hv7xA
6. Apple Podcast：https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ts-living-room-|-tt客厅/id1794018107

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✨TT客厅是一档中英双语的视频播客，以自我探索与成长为切入点，展开与不同背景朋友的真实对话。话题涵盖个人经历、职业路径与文化观察等广泛议题，在轻松真诚的交流中连接彼此，搭建一个分享和产生共鸣的空间。欢迎大家一键三连最新的片段。✨T’s Living Room is a bilingual video podcast in Chinese and English, using self-exploration and personal growth as a starting point for authentic conversations with people from diverse backgrounds. Covering a wide range of topics—from personal journeys and career paths to cultural reflections—the podcast creates a relaxed and sincere space for sharing, connection, and mutual resonance.

毕业典礼前一天分享一期特别的聊天。嘉宾是我在研究生项目中认识的两位好朋友— Julio 曾在厄瓜多尔创办教育初创公司，Wandy 曾在泰国政府机构推动教育公平，他们是我很多专业课的队友，我们也都是在工作几年后决定回到校园继续深造。 这次对话聊了很多：作为教育从业者在不同国家的经历，对哥大（以及其他美国名校）教育学院“水硕”项目的观察与反思，如何在系统内外找到成长和自我定位的方式，也聊到了作为教育者面对的刻板印象和被忽视的价值。这是一场真诚而丰富的对谈，在这个毕业季送给每一个仍然相信教育力量的朋友，也作为一份毕业礼物送给自己。毕业快乐！

Sharing a special conversation on the day before graduation. The guests are two close friends I met during my graduate program—Julio, who founded an education social enterprise around design thinking in Ecuador, and Wandy, who worked on educational equity within a governmental agency in Thailand. They were my teammates in many courses, and like me, both returned to school after several years of working.

We talked about working in education across different countries, our take on “watered-down” master’s programs at top U.S. schools like Columbia, how we find growth in and outside the system, and the challenges educators often face. It was an open and meaningful conversation—shared as a graduation gift to anyone who believes in the power of education, and to myself. Congratulations!

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嘉宾信息Guest Information：

• Julio-哥大教育学院教育科技媒体项目，曾在厄瓜多尔做design thinking的教育创业公司. Instructional Tech and Media Program; previously ran a design thinking-focused education startup in Ecuador
• Wandee- 同项目，之前在泰国政府组织做远程教育. Same program; previously worked on remote education in a governmental agency in Thailand.
• Tina- 同项目，两年consulting经历和短期教育经历. Same program; two years of consulting experience and short-term roles at UNICEF and other education-focused organizations.

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具体内容Content Breakdown：

2’01 Guest Introduction 嘉宾介绍

2’47 Past experiences in education and why we chose to pursue further studies at Columbia’s Teachers College 教育领域的过往经历以及选择就读哥大教育学院的原因

10‘12 Observations on the education systems in Ecuador and Thailand 对厄瓜多尔和泰国教育现状的观察

11‘40 How our graduate studies helped us explore the issues we care about 在研究生学习中连接我们关注的问题/从哥大项目中得到的启发

14‘19 International NGOs vs. Local NGOs 国际型 NGO vs. 本地 NGO 的异同

16‘03 Key takeaways from the graduate school experience 研究生学习过程中的具体收获

17‘54 Examining how EdTech products, like Duolingo, often stray from educational theory 从多邻国开始审视与教育理论脱节的 EdTech 产品

20’52 Critiques of our program 哥大教育学院项目槽点

24‘15 How to stay empowered when your passion happens to be in a “less prestigious” program当你热爱的领域恰好是“水项目”，如何自我赋能

25‘43 Using personal ability to go beyond the single identity of a “top school” student 如何用个人能力反哺“某名校学生”的单一身份

27‘06 Redefining the role of educators 重塑教育者形象——这个世界需要多元人才

28‘34 Future plans未来计划

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欢迎大家在以下平台关注我们 Please find us at platforms below:

1. 小红书 （RedNote）：@TT客厅
2. Youtube Channel： www.youtube.com/@TsLivingRoom
3. 小宇宙：https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/6796f93fce6dc065d2f6a87e
4. Spotify：https://open.spotify.com/show/6CGyl1XCXXOk3JUkUTV0PW?si=WKssHVYSQEiA6hmM4hv7xA
5. Apple Podcast：https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ts-living-room-|-tt客厅/id1794018107

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✨TT客厅系列节目的初衷，是以记录海外华人在外自我探索与成长为切入点，通过真实而真诚的对话，搭建一个可以交流、分享与共鸣的社区。欢迎大家一键三连最新的片段，也可以在小红书/YouTube/Spotify/小宇宙/Apple Podcast搜索TT客厅（英文名T's Living Room）观看或收听完整节目。The intention of the “T’s Living Room” series is to document the journey of self-exploration and growth of overseas Chinese, using authentic and sincere conversations to create a space for sharing, connection, and resonance.

这期节目聚焦于在美国大企业与初创公司中的不同工作体验。我特别喜欢这次谈话的节奏—无论是在旧金山相识、毅然离开科技咨询加入machine learning初创公司的校友 April，还是在纽约结识、从银行 S&T 岗位转身投入帮助中国企业出海的群友 Jojo，两位嘉宾都在这次客厅对话中给我带来了许多启发。我们聊到了工作中的动力与挑战、自主性与成为 T 型人才，身份认知、人生主线任务与风险决策等话题。嘉宾们分享内容丰富又言之有物，我自己也学到了很多。希望有缘听到的朋友也能有所收获，enjoy！

This episode explores the differences between working at large corporations and startups in the U.S. I really enjoyed the flow of the conversation—April left a career in tech consulting to join a machine learning startup, while Jojo transitioned from a banking S&T role to her current mission of helping Chinese companies expand overseas. We touched on topics like motivation and challenges at work, autonomy and becoming T-shaped professionals, identity, life’s core missions, and risk-taking. The guests shared thoughtful and insightful perspectives, and I learned a lot from the discussion. Hope it resonates with you too!

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嘉宾信息Guest Information：

• Tina- UCLA/Columbia，北美管理咨询打工人； Strategy & Consulting
• April- UCLA，IBM咨询转行AI创业公司；Tech Consulting to Machine Learning Startup
• Jojo- UIUC/Fordham，投行S&T转行中国企业出海；Sales & Trading to Oversees Business Development for Chinese Startups

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具体内容Content Breakdown：

1’48 Guest Introduction 嘉宾介绍

2’59 Experiences at Corporations vs. Startups 企业和初创公司的不同体验

6’31 Management Styles and Team Dynamics 不同的管理风格和团队文化

10’03 Switching Teams Internally vs. Switching Jobs Externally 内部转组与外部转行的路径选择

13’10 Transferable Skills for Career Changes & the T-shaped Talent 对转行有用的技能与T型人才的发展

15’43 Seizing Opportunities with Our Unique Identities 在美华人如何抓住机会

19’07 Being Pro-Risk vs. Risk-Averse 关于风险的不同看法

20’31 Is There a “Main Route” in Life? On Resilience and Adversity 人生是否有“主线任务”？以及面对困境的韧性

25’35 The Cities That Shaped Us 不同城市对我们身份的影响

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欢迎大家在以下平台关注我们 Please find us at platforms below:

1. 小红书 （RedNote）：@TT客厅
2. Youtube Channel： www.youtube.com/@TsLivingRoom
3. 小宇宙：https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/6796f93fce6dc065d2f6a87e
4. Spotify：https://open.spotify.com/show/6CGyl1XCXXOk3JUkUTV0PW?si=WKssHVYSQEiA6hmM4hv7xA
5. Apple Podcast：https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ts-living-room-|-tt客厅/id1794018107

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✨记录成长轨迹, 传达真实对话和共鸣的力量

TT客厅系列节目的初衷是记录海外华人在美国生活工作的的成长轨迹，通过真实真诚的对话搭建一个可以交流、分享和共鸣的社区。欢迎大家在评论区提供反馈/好点子或者添加微信（tlu_17)加入我们的听友/嘉宾群，一起共创属于我们的内容和社群～

T's Living Room series documents the growth journeys of Chinese international students working in America, creating a community for authentic exchange, sharing, and connection. We welcome your feedback and ideas in the comments section, or join our listener/guest WeChat group (tlu_17) to co-create content and build our community together!

这一期节目邀请了我的大学好友 Jess—一个典型的“别人家的小孩”式乖乖女 ABC。从大学毕业后进入四大做税务咨询，到跳槽至科技公司从事企业战略（并即将裸辞），她在这个过程中不断探索并更加坚定自己的追求。我们分享了服务行业/咨询行业的挑战，以及她的成长经历，并聊到了如何应对工作的不确定性、学会放下，以及如何与伴侣相互支持并维持一段健康的长期关系。

In this episode, I chat with my college friend Jess—a “poster child” ABC. From her switching from advisory at a Big Four to corporate strategy at a tech company (soon to quit), we discuss the challenges of consulting, navigating career uncertainty, learning to let go, and maintaining a healthy long-term relationship.

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✨嘉宾信息Guest Information：

• Tina- UCLA/Columbia，北美管理咨询打工人；3rd year in consulting
• Jess- UCLA，四大咨询转行企业产略，即将裸辞; Big 4 advisory to Tech Corporate Strategy, quitting soon

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✨具体内容Content Breakdown：

2’05 Guest Intro 嘉宾介绍

4’20 Switching Job for Jess 换工作历程

7’04 Unpredictability of consulting 咨询工作的不可预测性

8‘34 Finding projects and explanation of bench time 咨询中找项目和“板凳时间”

10’32 Detach + partners as support 讨厌工作的时候怎么照顾自己

14’00 Jess's 6-year long term relationship Type A 女生如何维持健康的长期的关系

19’55 Plan to go nomad and plan for the future 成为数字游民和未来规划

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✨欢迎大家在以下平台关注我们 Please find us at platforms below:

1. 小红书 （RedNote）：@TT客厅
2. Youtube Channel： www.youtube.com/@TsLivingRoom
3. 小宇宙：https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/6796f93fce6dc065d2f6a87e
4. Spotify：https://open.spotify.com/show/6CGyl1XCXXOk3JUkUTV0PW?si=WKssHVYSQEiA6hmM4hv7xA
5. Apple Podcast：https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ts-living-room-|-tt客厅/id1794018107

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✨记录成长轨迹, 传达真实对话和共鸣的力量

TT客厅系列节目的初衷是记录海外华人在美国生活工作的的成长轨迹，通过真实真诚的对话搭建一个可以交流、分享和共鸣的社区。欢迎大家在评论区提供反馈/好点子或者添加微信（tlu_17)加入我们的听友/嘉宾群，一起共创属于我们的内容和社群～

T's Living Room series documents the growth journeys of Chinese international students working in America, creating a community for authentic exchange, sharing, and connection. We welcome your feedback and ideas in the comments section, or join our listener/guest WeChat group (tlu_17) to co-create content and build our community together!

TT客厅的首次多人聊天邀请了几位同为英高/美高的12年+老留子，一起聊聊我们不同的教育背景。多年好友相聚，话题轻松，在回忆我们作为“降落伞一代”（Parachute Generation）的经历时，这些教育经历不仅是“笑中带泪”的回忆，也深刻影响了我们此后的价值观，美国生活和职场发展。

For T’s Living Room’s first group discussion, we invited several longtime friends who also spent 12+ years studying in UK or US high schools to chat about our diverse educational backgrounds. As old friends reunited, the conversation flowed naturally as we reminisced about our experiences as part of the "Parachute Generation." These educational journeys were not just memories filled with laughter and tears but also profoundly shaped our values, our lives, and our career development in the U.S..

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嘉宾信息Guest Information：

Tina- 私立美高+大U本科，管理咨询打工人; private high school in the U.S.- UCLA/Coumbia- working in management consulting

Victor- 私立美初+私立美高，教育领域在职；private middle school and high school in the U.S.- Hamilton College/Upenn- working in education/admissions

Sarah- 私立英高+英国G5，美研在读；private high school in the UK. - UCL- Upenn

Seven- 私立宗教美高+大U，美研在读； private religious high school- UWisonsin Madison- Upenn

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具体内容Content Breakdown：

1’57 嘉宾介绍3’02 最初的选择和初到美国和英国的经历6’35 运动作为融入的切入点8‘35 适应融入英美社交圈的一些经历13‘35 高中对于我们申请大学的影响16’36 大Uvs文理vs英本就读对于生活和工作的影响22’19 低龄留学对我们的锻炼

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欢迎大家在以下平台关注我们 Please find us at platforms below:

1. 小红书 （RedNote）：@TT客厅
2. Youtube Channel： www.youtube.com/@TsLivingRoom
3. 小宇宙：https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/6796f93fce6dc065d2f6a87e
4. Spotify：https://open.spotify.com/show/6CGyl1XCXXOk3JUkUTV0PW?si=WKssHVYSQEiA6hmM4hv7xA
5. Apple Podcast：https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ts-living-room-|-tt客厅/id1794018107

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✨记录成长轨迹, 传达真实对话和共鸣的力量

TT客厅系列节目的初衷是记录海外华人在美国生活工作的的成长轨迹，通过真实真诚的对话搭建一个可以交流、分享和共鸣的社区。欢迎大家在评论区提供反馈/好点子或者添加微信（tlu_17)加入我们的听友/嘉宾群，一起共创属于我们的内容和社群～

T's Living Room series documents the growth journeys of Chinese international students working in America, creating a community for authentic exchange, sharing, and connection. We welcome your feedback and ideas in the comments section, or join our listener/guest WeChat group (tlu_17) to co-create content and build our community together!

TT客厅的第二期首次为大家带来全英内容！这次邀请了我的第一个美国好朋友—来自新泽西的Milan，她现在是一名国际知名药企的资深财务分析师。在这期节目中，Milan和我深入探讨了本地人与国际生在职场上的不同视角，企业和四大服务业的选择考量，如何在美国工作环境中用外语自信表达，以及私立学校和精英主义的影响等等有实用意义的话题。希望我们这段见证彼此成长的12年友谊能为大家带来一些启发！

Welcome to the second episode of T's Living Room—our first all-English content! I've invited my first American friend Milan, a senior financial analyst at a globally renowned pharmaceutical company in New Jersey. In this episode, Milan and I explore the different perspectives of locals and international students in the workplace, weigh the choices between corporate and Big 4 professional services, discuss expressing yourself confidently in English-speaking work environments, and examine the impact of private education and elitism, among other practical topics. We hope our 12-year friendship, which has witnessed our parallel growth journeys, brings you valuable insights!

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嘉宾信息Guest Information：

Milan- 土生土长的新泽西Local，国际药企的资深财务分析师。在新加坡交换过+参与过公司加州的轮岗领导力项目。A New Jersey local, Senior Financial Analyst at a Global Pharmaceutical Company.

Tina- 北美管理咨询打工人，ucla心理系+创业辅修。在欧洲交换实习过+在云南旅居工作过3个月。Senior Consulting Analyst at a Consulting Firm.

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具体内容Content Breakdown：

• 0’00- 1’42 高光话题 Highlight
• 1’43- 3’38 介绍和我们的背景 Introduction and Our Journey
• 3’39- 6’52 本地人和国际生对于职场的看法 Locals vs. Internationals in Corporate America
• 6’53- 10’16 工作中我们是不是真的自己 Authenticity Across Different Spheres
• 10’17- 12’28 企业vs四大/服务型平台 Corporate vs. Professional Services
• 12‘29- 16‘41 在美国工作环境里自信地用外语表达自己和“竹子天花板” Confidence in English-Speaking Workplaces and “Bamboo Ceilings”
• 16’42- 18‘17 成就感来自于哪里 Finding Fulfillment in Work and Life
• 18’18- 23‘01 Boss Girl的多元定义和对领导力的看法 Redefining "Boss Girl"
• 23’02- 27‘17 私立学校和精英主义对我们的影响 The Impact of Private Education and Elitism
• 27’18- 32‘15 愿景和我们对在全球各地工作的印象 Global Perspectives and Future Vision

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欢迎大家在以下平台关注我们 Please find us at platforms below:

1. 小红书 （RedNote）：@TT客厅
2. Youtube Channel：www.youtube.com/@TsLivingRoom
3. 小宇宙：https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/6796f93fce6dc065d2f6a87e
4. Spotify：https://open.spotify.com/show/6CGyl1XCXXOk3JUkUTV0PW?si=WKssHVYSQEiA6hmM4hv7xA
5. Apple Podcast：https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ts-living-room-|-tt客厅/id1794018107

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✨记录成长轨迹, 传达真实对话和共鸣的力量

TT客厅系列节目的初衷是记录大家在美国职场和生活上的的成长轨迹，通过真实真诚的对话搭建一个可以交流、分享和共鸣的社区。欢迎大家在评论区提供反/好点子或者添加微信（tlu_17)加入我们的听友/嘉宾群，一起共创属于我们的内容和社群～

T's Living Room series documents the growth journeys of Chinese international students working in America, creating a community for authentic exchange, sharing, and connection. We welcome your feedback and ideas in the comments section, or join our listener/guest WeChat group (tlu_17) to co-create content and build our community together!