EPISODE 36 // A lot to cover this episode, which was recorded at night. We have a special never-before-done Follow-Ups: Updates Corner where we check in with Hao's two cubic feet of soil AND a Mailbox Corner from our friend Bradley. Then we plunge into the sadness of breakfasts.

Plugs this week: meeting a witch (Jack), the 2017 movie THE SQUARE (Hao), and Deb Perelman's Smitten Kitchen Every Day (Kate).

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