TSN Director of Scouting Craig Button doesn't see Jake Virtanen as a top 6 forward in the NHL because he won't produce enough offensively to be in that role. Craig also questions where Virtanen sees himself as he might not be ready to accept that he's not a top 6 forward.

Guests include Jeff Paterson.

TSN1040's Jeff Paterson says he's looking forward to seeing defenceman Brogan Rafferty play as he has been a standout so far at training camp. Jeff says it's not just the bubble players that need to impress during pre-season games but veteran playerer like Loui Eriksson, who has been pretty quiet during the first three days of training camp.

The guys recap win's for the Lions, Whitecaps and Seahawks.

Guest host Jon Abbott; guests include Alex Marvez.

Alex Marvez says that Antonio Brown has been in the league long enough that he should be up to speed with the Patriots offence. Alex also believes that Seattle played down to their competition last week against the Bengals.

Guest host Jon Abbott; guests include Joe Leary.

Guest host Jon Abbott; guests include Jeff Paterson.

Guest host Jon Abbott; guests include Travis Lulay.

Travis Lulay knows it's hard to take a lot of positives from a 1-10 team but the Lions are playing better, cleaner football over the past few games. Travis says the game in Montreal was equally played, the offensive line was cleaner, the special teams didn't have glaring mistakes and the defence continues to get better every week.