TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun says he still see's a future in coaching for Babcock but expects him and DeBoer to take a break that will be good for their mental health.

Guests include: TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun.

Mike and Jason discuss What We Learned

Mike and Jason talk Canucks with Thomas Drance and Dallas Stars with Sean Shapiro

Sean Shapiro of the Athletic Dallas gets into the Dallas Stars situation after the abrupt firing of Jim Montgomery, and where it goes from here

Thomas Drance gets into the Canucks-Canes tilt tonight, the coaching change in San Jose, and if the Canucks are doing a good enough job details injuries

Mike and Jason get into the Canes-Canucks tilt tonight with John Forslund from the Carolina broadcast booth, take some Clips, and discuss if and how fans can be emancipated from supporting their favourite teams

John Forslund from the Hurricanes broadcast booth says the Canes play fast, swarm opponents, and are fun to watch. John gets into the Canes goaltending situation and says Andrei Svechnikov is tracking to be a star

Mike and Jason get into the Canucks game tonight vs Carolina, Jim Benning's interview with Sekeres and Price, and have a terrific time with Carl English, who discusses his journey from

Carl English describes his journey from a tiny village in Newfoundland to the NBA, pro hoops in Europe, and playing for Canada...all in his new book, Chasing A Dream