2019 marks the 250th anniversary of when Captain James Cook arrived in Aotearoa. Tuia 250, is commemorating  the first onshore meetings between Māori – the tangata whenua of Aotearoa New Zealand – and Pākehā in 1769–70. The commerations have been met with mixed responses, taking place at the arrival of the Endeavour yesterday. Tuwhenuaroa spoke to Owen Lloyd, Chairman of  the Tairawhiti District Māori Council, who has a deep connection to te Tairawhiti on both his Pakeha and Maori side. He has very different views to those expressed by many maori in the mainstream media, so I began the interview by asking him about his own personal take on the Tuia 250 commemorations, and about the response of protestors like his colleague Marise Lant.