Magician, podcaster, and World’s Greatest Con creator Brian Brushwood joins us to talk about the coming Scampocalypse, where AI-powered deception meets human vulnerability. We dive into how magic, psychology, and “deceptive role play” can transform security awareness from boring quizzes into hands-on human defense training. Learn why Brian says it’s time to stop training “sheep” and start raising “wolves.”

Topics include:
• Why traditional phishing tests fail
• How AI is powering the next generation of scams
• What magicians know about deception that CISOs don’t
• The “sheep vs. wolf” model for human training
• How to gamify social engineering safely

• The Greatest Con Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/0xZYIEwtxkB1YxIENS7c6z?si=a6b654370c424128
• The Modern Rogue: https://www.youtube.com/@ModernRogue/
• ScamStuff: https://www.scamstuff.com/
• Brian Brushwood’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-brushwood/

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