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๐Ÿข Turtle Talk Podcast: Episode 007 โ€“ Fractals, Expectancy, and Survival


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Join Rich, Adam, and Jerry as they dive deep into the structures that shape systematic trend following. No guests this month โ€” just the three of us tackling big themes, fresh charts, and audience questions that get right to the heart of Outlier Hunting.

In this episode:

๐Ÿ“Š Battle of the Trend Following Indexes โ€“ August review: classic trend bounces back, but what lies beneath the numbers?

๐Ÿ“ˆ Whatโ€™s Moved the Needle โ€“ JGBs, Copper (US & LME), Gold, Silver, and Live Cattle take center stage.
๐Ÿ” Turtle Tidbits โ€“ Five heavyweight topics:

  • Are markets fractal and are outliers inevitable?

  • Expectancy vs Path Dependence โ€“ what really matters for survival?

  • The Cut Back Rule โ€“ Jerry explains why itโ€™s essential.

  • Loose Pants โ€“ Jerryโ€™s metaphor for risk and flexibility.

  • High-Vol Trend Following โ€“ unpacking Seeking Alphaโ€™s case for why it might be the most valuable alternative investment.

    ๐Ÿ’Œ Shell Mail (Listener Q&A) โ€“ Audience questions on diversification sizing, lost decades in trend following, and quantifying fat-tailed events.

    ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Plus: Rich defends path dependence, Adam challenges mandate mixing, and Jerry sharpens his myth-busting sword.

    ๐Ÿ“š Special Announcement:

    Our new book The Aussie Turtles Trend Following Guide is being released next week! Itโ€™s the flagship collection of philosophy, process, and practice behind the Aussie Turtlesยฎ approach. Stay tuned @ https://www.aussieturtles.com/ for launch details.

    ๐ŸŒ Episode resources and reports discussed:

    • Battle of the Trend Following Indexes โ€“ August 2025: https://www.aussieturtles.com/battle-of-the-trend-following-indexes-august-2025/

    • Fractals, Diversification and the Myth of Dilution: https://atstradingsolutions.com/fractals-diversification-and-the-myth-of-dilution/

    • Are Markets Fractal? The Case for Maximum Diversification: https://atstradingsolutions.com/are-markets-fractal-the-case-for-maximum-diversification/

    • Expectancy vs Survival: Why the Outlier Hunter Thinks Differently: https://atstradingsolutions.com/expectancy-vs-survival-why-the-outlier-hunter-thinks-differently/

    • Beyond Expectancy: Protecting the Path of the Outlier Hunter: https://atstradingsolutions.com/beyond-expectancy-protecting-the-path-of-the-outlier-hunter/

    • High-Vol Trend Following โ€“ Most Valuable Alternative Investment: https://seekingalpha.com/article/4823294-high-vol-trend-following-most-valuable-alternative-investment

      ๐Ÿ“ฉ Got questions for the pod? Send them in:

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