Kelly and Sophy are joined by freelance journalist Kaz Weida and writer and actress Elizabeth Thorp to discuss Kirsten Gillibrand's book, *Off the Sidelines: Speak Up, Be Fearless, and Change Your World.*We discuss our impressions of the book, favorite moments, what we learned about Kirsten, and what kind of President we think she would be based on this book. This is the fifth in a series of episodes we will do reading the books of the Democratic Presidential candidates.