Two Voices. No filter. Talking Truth from Italy

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  • 20 Years of Blogging Florence: What Changed, What Didn't With Elena Farinelli

    In March 2006, before Instagram and before the iPhone reached Italy, Elena Farinelli started a blog about life in Florence. Twenty years later, Io Amo Firenze is one of the longest-running blogs in Italy, and Elena has watched the whole internet change around it. As so many of us have.

    Georgette and Valentina, both longtime friends who first found her online back in 2006, when Elena was topping the search rankings, sit down with Elena to talk about what content creation in Italy really looks like now.

    They cover the early blogging days, when 2,000 readers arrived in a few months and a Japanese television crew came calling. Why most people in Florence makes don't make most of their income on social media alone and ho awkward it is when creators aren't transparent. We also look into the cost of oversharing online and discuss if the city, and the way it has evolved, has made it a little harder to support.

    Episode highlights

    • Elena on being a Florentine "doc" in a family from everywhere else in Italy, and being baptised in the Baptistery in Piazza del Duomo
    • Looking at the internet in 2006. The forums, a nickname born on a digital marketing message board, and almost no reliable information about Florence online (Mugello was one of the first areas to get SEO right)
    • How the need for creative freedom pushed her to start her own blog
    • How she was able to gain 2,000 readers in a few months in
    • Why her friends don't read her blog, and how a reader who commented every day in 2008 became one of her best friends
    • Elena's three jobs: content creator, consultant and teacher (her rule: she couldn't teach Instagram if she didn't use it every day)
    • Why she doesn't call herself an influencer, even though people have been going to the places she recommends since 2006
    • Copycat content, trending audio and the algorithm's template, and why Elena skips the places everyone else is filming
    • Italy's creator boom: content-creation businesses grew from about 9,000 in 2015 to more than 25,000 in 2024 (Il Sole 24 Ore) and why social media and viral newbies makes it all look like one huge MLM
    • The hidden cost of the job: Aka hours of editing, time taken from family, and the "brain rot" that comes from scrolling for work
    • The money reality: in Elena's experience, nobody in Florence creating in Italian makes a full-time living from social media; most combine it with teaching, consulting, courses or products but you wouldn't know it from IG.
    • Transparency: why Elena tags every invitation and paid collaboration "for my community, not because of the law," and how she handles a place that isn't great (important topic).
    • Oversharing and parasocial relationships: the breakup post readers still ask about years later
    • How she deals with negativity, from being hurt early on to happily replying to TikTok trolls today
    • Why Facebook isn't dead for her: her page is growing, with an older audience
    • Florence today: "I love Florence, but Florence hates me," why she considered renaming the blog, and why all three of them live outside the centro
    • Advice for aspiring creators: find your niche, start from passion, plan for the long run and make peace with the boring parts
    • Cose a Caso (our quick fire fun conclusion round): quick verdicts on the new rules of content, from "people follow people, not brands" to whether going viral still means anything

    Guest

    Elena Farinelli is a Florence-born content creator, digital marketing consultant and trainer. She founded the blog Io Amo Firenze in 2006, making it one of the longest-running blogs in Italy, and has spent twenty years writing about what it really means to live in Florence. Alongside creating content, she consults for businesses and teaches digital marketing and AI at universities, design schools and companies. 🔗 Io Amo Firenze · Instagram: @nellifirenze

    Big thanks to Vivace Media for producing the show, and to ZOWorking Sesto Fiorentino for hosting us.

    If this episode resonated with you, leave us a review, drop a comment, and share it with someone who's thinking about becoming a creator in Italy.

    1 hr 2 min
  • We All Want a Village. So Why Won’t We Show Up?

    Everyone wants a village but it feels like nobody wants to build one.

    So here is the uncomfortable question. The last time a friend told you "I’m fine," did you actually believe her? Or did you pack a bag and go anyway?

    This episode was inspired by the two of us having a bad week. Work stress, grief over lost loved ones, feeling like a failure as a parent. And if we were 30, we would have plastered on a smile, posted a cute story, and said, "I'm fine!" and made a joke of it all but at 40, we had to admit it was complete hell, and then we decided this conversation was worth having on the pod.

    And as two women that are all about being the village we would like to have in the messy middle of life, this is quite the worthy conversation.

    While today’s digital spaces prioritize friction-free safety and transactional comfort, a genuine village cannot exist without mutual vulnerability, uncalculated sacrifice, and enduring commitment through life’s triumphs and trials. Also it's worth noting that past generations relied heavily on free, everyday favors... things like rides, pet-sitting, or shared childcare. Modern society frequently outsources these needs to paid services, which isolates people and drives up costs.

    We’re talking about why people flood your inbox during the crisis, but evaporate a week later. Why the day-five text message matters a thousand times more than the day-one text. Why "Don't worry, you don't need to come" is almost always code for "Please don't let me do this alone." And why women who would literally throw themselves in front of a bus for their friends still can't say four simple words: "Yes. Please come over."

    Also on the table: Dante’s midlife crisis, our husbands officially being put on notice and our dead-serious plan to buy a Tuscan co-living farmhouse before we turn 60.

    Grab a coffee. Who’s coming with us?

    In this episode, we cover:
    • "I'm fine" is bullshit
    • Two highly sensitive people walk into a podcast: absorbing everyone's emotions, and ....what it costs
    • The follow-up is the friendship: on not missing important cues
    • Nel mezzo del cammin di nostra vita mi ritrovai per una selva oscura : even Dante got lost in the messy middle
    • Loneliness is a health risk: the Blue Zones, micro-interactions, and why "we should get coffee sometime" isn't community.
    • Husbands, we need to talk: why our men often suck at friendship (and still want to move in with our girlfriends)
    • The dream: a village of women, Friday dinners, shared soup, kids watched by everyone, yet everyone has their own space
    • "I love you, but I'm in survival mode": what friendship actually looks like after 40
    • Being the pillar: why you can't fall apart while you're holding everyone else up
    • Everyone disappears after the funeral: why month three hurts more than week one, and who's still texting by then
    • How to be a better villager, starting this week: call people randomly, stop waiting for the perfect moment, and let someone bring takeout and put on a silly show
    • Steal our rituals: hairdresser dates, errand buddies, walk-and-talks and 20-minute voice notes
    • Songs vs. homework: Valentina sends her husband love songs. Georgette sends hers assignments lol.

    Tell us

    How do you show up as a villager? And if you're still looking for your village, what's stopping you from starting one? Send us a DM on instagram or leave a comment.

    Links mentioned
    • Vivace Book Club https://anewlifeinitaly.substack.com/s/vivace-book-club
    • Children's Lending Library, Florence: https://childrenslendinglibrary.wordpress.com/

    Big thanks to Vivace Media for producing the show, and to Zoworking for hosting us at Punta Ala. If this one hit home, send it to the friend you've been meaning to call.

    38 min
  • Tuscany Ghost Stories: Spirits, Saints & Superstition

    It's spooky season and you better believe that there is a myriad of legends in Tuscany that are as mysterious as they are spooky. Let's start with the open window in Piazza Santissima Annunziata that hasn't been shut in centuries. Legend says the one time someone tried and the house started throwing books off the shelves.

    For our Halloween and Ognissanti special, we brought in Alexandra Lawrence: British Institute of Florence lecturer, accredited guide, Dante devotee, and the woman Georgette texts every time she needs to know whether something in Florence actually happened. (Usually, annoyingly, it did.)

    Together we sort Tuscany's ghost stories from the real history they were built on. A devil outsmarted by a dog on a bridge near Lucca. A noblewoman whose beauty routine involved a thirty-year contract with Satan. And a Palazzo Vecchio whose windows have seen more executions than any building reasonably should.

    Then the other side of the season: why Italians spend November 1 and 2 scrubbing headstones and arranging chrysanthemums, why the Etruscans packed cheese graters for the afterlife, and two cemeteries worth a slow walk. Alexandra will die on the hill that Florence's history needs no embellishment. She will not, however, set foot in a deconsecrated country chapel after dark.

    n this episode, we cover:
    • Meet Alexandra: touring King Charles around Florence (yes really), the Zoom lectures born when the pandemic emptied the city, her Radical Renaissance Women series at the British Institute, and why she's technically not an art historian (her degree is in Italian literature)
    • The window that never closes: Palazzo Budini Gattai, a bride still keeping watch, and the very real possibility that a cleaner shuts it by accident one day
    • The devil at Giotto's bell tower: Valentina's folklore explanation for the Duomo wind tunnel, picked up from her teacher, the Tuscan story collector Lapucci. Georgette's verdict on the man who never came back: "Sounds like every Florentine man."
    • Where the legends live: Valentina's reason for starting Too Much Tuscany (not just the shopping), and Lo Struscio Fiorentino, the first book to collect Florence's stories
    • The Pazzi Conspiracy: Giuliano de' Medici stabbed 19 times in the Duomo, Lorenzo saved by Francesco Nori (whose tomb in Santa Croce everyone walks past to look at Michelangelo's), the consecration of the host as the go signal, and the conspirators hanged from Palazzo della Signoria and the Bargello
    • Savonarola: an apocalyptic preacher in a hair shirt and black robes in a city dressed like the Magi Chapel, four years in power, a Borgia pope, the San Marco bell, the Bonfire of the Vanities, and his ashes in the Arno. Florence still throws flowers in the river for him every year.
    • Florence doesn't do extremes: but, Valentina notes, it does do revenge (see: salting the earth of conquered towns)
    • The Devil's Bridge of Borgo a Mozzano: Castruccio Castracani's medieval bridge over the Serchio and the dog sent across first and we asked Alexandra why the 14th-century devil was so damn busy.
    • Borgo a Mozzano's Halloween festival: Georgette's visit years ago, a genuinely scary haunted house, and her rule for Tuscany: "Everything's spooky if you just throw some spiderwebs on it." Plus Bagni di Lucca next door. Maybe don't send your dog first.
    • Older than the Church: Etruscan banquets for the dead, olive pits in tombs, and Halloween as a kind of Carnevale
    • Cemeteries, without the fear: November 1 with flowers and blessings, photos on Italian tombstones, the English Cemetery (Elizabeth Barrett Browning, late-April irises, FAI tours and the nun who looks after it), San Miniato al Monte's monumental cemetery and a saint who carried his own head up the hill (football hold, we've decided), the Florence War Cemetery, and the German Military Cemetery at the Futa Pass on the Gothic Line
    • Keeping the dead in the conversation: talking to our kids about the people we've lost, and why facing death head-on is the point of all of this
    • Cose a Caso: Alexandra's favorite legend, La Berta at Santa Maria Maggiore ("just like a man, using his powers for evil"), Lucca Comics weekend with a theater kid, and Grinch vs. Halloween

    For the record: the open window, the windy corner, the devil's bridge and La Berta are legends. The Pazzi Conspiracy and Savonarola are documented history, with the paintings and paperwork to prove it.

    Guest

    Alexandra Lawrence has spent more than 25 years in Italy working in journalism and international education, as a lecturer in art history and contemporary Italian cultural studies, and as an accredited guide for Italian museums and archaeological sites. Her academic background is in Italian literature, with a focus on 14th-century Florentine poetry and Dante. Since 2020 she has designed and run lecture series and courses on her own and with The British Institute of Florence, from Dante's Divine Comedy and Boccaccio's Decameron to Renaissance women and the Medici. She also runs an online book club devoted to Italian authors in translation and writes Illuminare, a twice-monthly Substack on literature, art and life. 🔗 Illuminare: · The British Institute of Florence: · Instagram:

    Links mentioned
    • Live in Italy Magazine, "Exploring Halloween and All Saints' Day in Italy" (Oct 2024)
    • Borgo a Mozzano Halloween festival and my take on it on GirlinFlorence.
    • VisitTuscany, "Mysteries, oddities and scary stories of Florence"
    • Santa Maria Maggiore, Florence and La Berta
    • The English Cemetery, Piazzale Donatello.
    • Savonarola in Florence: the plaque in Piazza della Signoria and the Museo di San Marco
    • April Blood: Florence and the Plot Against the Medici by Lauro Martines
    • Lo Struscio Fiorentino:
    • German Military Cemetery, Futa Pass
    • Advancing Women Artists

    Produced by Vivace Media and recorded at Zoworking (best coworking in Florence)

    If you love Florence's dark side as much as we do, send this to the friend who always wants the scary version of the story, and leave us a review. It genuinely helps.

    1 hr 1 min
  • Who Pays the Bill in Italy? Unwritten Italian Money Rules

    Money might be the last taboo in Italy. In this episode, Georgette and Valentina talk openly about Italian money culture and what you need to know before you go: what’s polite to ask, what never gets said out loud but probably should. We also touch on why that silence hurts women and freelancers most.

    Why Italians “don’t talk about money”

    Salaries are off limits, even between partners sometimes. Asking what someone paid for a house or car, though, is fine, as long as the answer is circa.

    Cash culture and mattress money

    Why older generations still keep cash at home, and the long distrust of Italian banks.

    Pay transparency

    The upcoming law on transparent salaries, and why secrecy tends to benefit employers, especially when it comes to the gender pay gap.

    Financial literacy

    Bank of Italy figures show Italian adults score low on financial knowledge, with women underestimating themselves even more. Plus, Georgette’s experience growing up with a single dad who had no financial training.

    Freelancing in Italy

    Opening a partita IVA, the free advice service at the Camera di Commercio, and the joy of paying taxes in advance (a sore point every November).

    Tredicesima and quattordicesima

    The 13th and 14th month salaries employees get, and freelancers don’t.

    Con o senza fattura?

    The black economy, the 22% IVA question, and why it’s slowly changing.

    Tipping in Italy

    What coperto and servizio actually cover, when we do tip (taxis, delivery riders, tour guides), and why a huge tip isn’t seen as generous here.

    Paying alla romana

    Splitting the bill evenly, the friend who always orders the bistecca, and why kids don’t count.

    Birthdays and weddings

    In Italy, the birthday person pays. Plus cash wedding gifts, IBANs and envelope boxes, and why judging guests by their gift says more about you than them.

    Cosa a Caso

    If you won the SuperEnalotto tomorrow, what’s the first thing you’d buy? What’s the most you’ve ever spent on something you’d be embarrassed to admit?

    Resources mentioned

    Pecuniami (Instagram), an Italian creator who helps women build financial independence.

    Casa delle Donne, Florence, which runs finance courses for women.

    Sportello Nuove Imprese at your local Camera di Commercio, free advice for new businesses and partite IVA.

    Bank of Italy survey on adult financial literacy (2023).

    Planet Money: Why Do We Tip? and This American Life: “Allure of the Mean Friend”, on whether niceness pays when it comes to tipping.

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    Produced by Vivace Media (and proud to be in the podcast group) and recorded by Zoworking.

    43 min
  • Can Looking at Art Heal You? Italy Says Yes!

    "Art is not a medicine… but it can help a lot to feel the beauty, to feel the joy, to feel the lightness. Art can help people heal." - Lucia Montuschi

    Can looking at a painting actually make you feel better? In April 2026, Italy's Ministries of Health and Culture signed a protocol so doctors can prescribe museum visits. And today's guest has been doing a version of this for about 35 years.

    Georgette and Valentina sit down with art historian, art therapist and guide Dott.ssa Lucia Montuschi, who started out as an educator in the Uffizi's Sezione Didattica. That was the same era in which psychiatrist Graziella Magherini was writing about Stendhal Syndrome. Lucia explains the difference between guardare and osservare, and why her first question in front of a painting is never "what is it?" but "what can you see?" She also talks about working with patients alongside doctors, and why she thinks art is the most universal language we have.

    Along the way: crying in front of Guernica, the David and the Nike of Samothrace. Why free museums abroad feel so different from Italy's. Night openings for kids. Why Lucia can't stand immersive Van Gogh experiences. And harmony as the real reason people keep coming to Florence. It closes with a Cose a Caso question made for this episode: which single painting would give you Stendhal Syndrome?

    In this episode, we cover:
    • How it started: the Uffizi's Sezione Didattica, founded in 1972 with volunteer educators, and how Lucia ended up working with patients there while Dr. Graziella Magherini was writing about Stendhal Syndrome
    • Guardare vs. osservare: "What can you see in the painting?" as the starting point, and the patient whose reading of a della Robbia Madonna at the Bargello said more about himself than about the sculpture
    • "Art is not a medicine": Lucia on why art can't replace treatment but can help people heal
    • When art makes you cry: Guernica, visitors walking toward the David, the Nike of Samothrace, and discovering Rothko at the Venice Biennale
    • Originals vs. reproductions: a King's College London study (one study, 50 people) comparing stress hormones when viewing original art and reproductions, and why Lucia "really hates" fully immersive projection exhibitions
    • Museums and kids: free museums in Scotland and Ireland vs. one free day a month in Italy, a less-than-welcoming afternoon at Palazzo Strozzi, and night openings with flashlights at a small pinacoteca in Faenza
    • Not every artwork is for you: Valentina's son loves Caravaggio and doesn't get Rothko, and why art is like food or music
    • "Flat shoes": Lucia's professor Mina Gregori on why art history means going to see the work in person, light and windows included
    • Harmony: the cloisters of San Marco and San Lorenzo, the Duomo's dome, and why Lucia thinks people really come to Florence
    • Italy's art on prescription protocol: what the April 2026 agreement between the Health and Culture ministries does, with Canada as an early example
    • A pilot program in Florence: Santa Maria Nuova, the Soprintendenza under Antonio Paolucci, a partnership with Paris, and a day trip to the Carrara marble quarries
    • Art in hard times: Valentina's art-and-nature reset, and Lucia on art and music after losing her father
    • Programs around Italy: Piedmont's museum prescriptions, Alzheimer's programs at Villa Giulia, the Museo Marino Marini and in the Valdarno, touch tours for blind visitors, and oncology patients at the Colosseum after closing
    • Go back again: why one visit isn't enough to decide whether a piece speaks to you
    • Cose a Caso: which painting gives each of us Stendhal Syndrome, and why all three of us picked something huge

    Check out Lucia's website and tour offerings here, and you can follow her on Instagram here and here.

    55 min
  • The Other Tuscany: Exploring Tuscany's Wild South

    This Friday might be raining here in Florence but let us take you two hours south to a place that is special to our hearts. Here are flamingos in the lagoons, cowboys working long-horned cattle, a beach where there is finally peace from the summer crowds, and some of the clearest (and cleanest) water on the Italian coast.

    Georgette and Valentina travel the Maremma coast north to south from one home base: ZoWorking's villa in Punta Ala, the pine-forest resort town shaped in many ways by Florentine architect Walter Di Salvo. Valentina brings the insider's version (the Maremma Tuscans actually vacation in, and why Marina di Grosseto is the beach they don't tell foreigners about). Georgette shares what she fell in love with when she first visited the area (which you can read about here). You'll come away with a realistic plan: where to base yourself, what to book ahead, and which stops are worth the drive.

    IN THIS EPISODE
    • Punta Ala: a town once called Punta Troia, renamed for fascist-era aviator Italo Balbo, home port to Luna Rossa in the 2000 America's Cup, and a quiet place Tuscans go to disappear
    • Walter Di Salvo: the overlooked Florentine architect who drew Punta Ala's 1959–60 master plan, built villas that sit inside the pine forest rather than on top of it, and claimed to have given Tuscany its first roundabouts
    • The villa: why we're basing this trip at Zoworking's villa in Punta Ala, and what a perfect first day there looks like
    • Cala Violina: the "singing beach" near Scarlino, why it needs a summer reservation, and why you carry your rubbish out (wild boar)
    • Follonica: an old iron-smelting town with a foundry museum, Blue Flag beaches, and Elba on the horizon
    • Castiglione della Pescaia: a working fishing harbor under a walled medieval town
    • Diaccia Botrona: one of Italy's most important wetlands, 200+ bird species, and the pitch for birdwatching if you've never owned binoculars
    • Marina di Grosseto: Art Nouveau villas, the retro Sciangai district, and the family beach town foreigners have never heard of
    • The Maremma Park and the butteri: long-horned Maremmana cattle, the mounted herders who work them, and what Italian cowboys actually have in common with Texan ones
    • Talamone: Garibaldi's fortress, kitesurfing at Fertilia, and Paolo the Fisherman, who sank marble sculptures into the sea to stop illegal trawlers (and it worked)
    • Orbetello and the lagoon: a town floating on a strip of land, flamingos, a lone Spanish windmill, and smoked eel
    • Monte Argentario: a former island, Spanish forts, the Roman summer crowd, how normal people do it, and Caravaggio's death in Porto Ercole
    • How to do it: why you need a car, what to book ahead, and why late spring and September–October are the sweet spot
    • Cose a Caso: as always, unscripted

    LINKS MENTIONED
    • Stay at the villa: Villa di Salvo: https://www.mamoflorence.com/puntaalaluxury, and you can see all of their luxury offerings here.
    • ZoWorking Sesto Fiorentino: https://zoworking.com/
    • Cala Violina bookings: https://booking.calaviolinascarlino.it/
    • Parco Regionale della Maremma: parco-maremma.it
    • Paolo the Fisherman / Casa dei Pesci: paoloilpescatore.it

    This episode is made in partnership with ZoWorking, who own the villa featured and host our studio.

    Big thanks to Vivace Media for producing the show, and to ZO Working Sesto Fiorentino for hosting us, this time all the way down to the coast. If this one made you want to drive south, leave us a review, share it with someone planning a Tuscany trip, and tell us your favourite Maremma beach.

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    37 min
  • Overrated Food Trends in Florence (and What to Eat Instead) with Sara Cagle

    Are wine windows, flambéed cheese wheels, and viral affogatos ruining Florence's food culture... or is there room for a little culinary theater?

    Georgette and Valentina sit down with Florence-based cooking instructor, food journalist, and Saporita Supper Club founder Sara Cagle (LOVE HER) to talk about what has changed the city's culinary landscape due to viral trends on Tiktok. You know about the wine windows serving unnamed "red, white, or spritz" and one historic gelateria where Valentina, who grew up on its gelato, now waits half an hour for a cone.

    We get into how social media and post-pandemic tourism have changed the way people eat in Florence, and who that change is actually for.

    Sara also shares how she ended up here (culinary school, then a surprise pandemic), why a supper club full of strangers is a very un-Italian idea that works anyway, and the simple ways to eat better in Florence: small local food tours, the Sant'Ambrogio market, a breakfast standing at the bar, and just asking people what's in season.

    In this episode, we cover:
    • From LA to Florence: Sara's path from food journalism in Los Angeles to culinary school in Florence in 2019, a pandemic halfway through, a stint making pasta at Eataly, and moving back for good in 2022
    • Saporita Supper Club: how it started with friend and food writer Phoebe Hunt at Beast Gallery in Sant'Ambrogio, the Italian-meets-international menus, and why Valentina says eating dinner with strangers is "so American"
    • Wine Window Overdrive: the history of the buchette del vino (yes, including the plague), the numbers the Associazione Buchette del Vino has mapped across Florence, Tuscany, and the world, Vivoli selling gelato through one during lockdown, and how they turned into crowded streets and unlabeled spritzes made for the camera
    • The Vivoli Affogato phenomenon: what happens when the algorithm "discovers" a gelateria Valentina's family has been going to for generations, and our modest proposal involving residency cards
    • Bistecca for Two? Why Sara gently steers couples away from ordering a Florentine steak because Tuscan cuisine is much varied than one thinks.
    • Rage Bait and Protein: "Italians don't eat vegetables," requests to add chicken to the pasta, and why expecting another country to feed you like home is a universal habit, not just an American one
    • Cheese-Wheel Pasta: hygiene questions, whether it's actually new (Valentina remembers it in Rome before it went viral), Georgette's theory that it's an '80s throwback, and what you're really paying for
    • Novelty Imports in the Centro Storico: lobster rolls in Santo Spirito, Japanese pancakes in Sant'Ambrogio, a matcha shop in San Frediano, and a viral cinnamon roll, and Sara's point that when new spots open where locals no longer live, they aren't really for locals but that doesn't mean we can't love them anyway.
    • How to Eat Well in Florence: small independent food tours, exploring Mercato di Sant'Ambrogio on your own, breakfast al bar, following local food voices instead of the algorithm, and why you shouldn't plan your whole trip with a chatbot
    • AI in the Kitchen: students doing all their research through ChatGPT, Google's AI search, and why Sara still keeps recipe development human (which is actually harder than it sounds).
    • Cose a Caso Spitfire Round: the one authentic dish every tourist walks past (frittelle di riso, sfoglia alla crema, schiacciata all'uva, and pane, vino e zucchero), and the one food trend each of us would ban from the city tomorrow

    Connect & Links Mentioned
    • Guest: Sara Cagle , Sara's Instagram
    • Saporita Supper Club: Instagram
    • Food voices mentioned: Giulia Scarpaleggia (Juls' Kitchen), Emiko Davies, Gipsy in the Kitchen
    • Associazione Buchette del Vino
    • Wine window book by Robin Gheesling
    • Hosts: Georgette & Valentina — Two Voices, No Filter: Talking Truth Beyond the Dolce Vita

    Big thanks to Vivace Media for producing the show, and to ZOWorking Sesto Fiorentino for hosting us. If this episode resonated with you, leave us a review, drop a comment, and share it with someone planning a trip to Florence.

    51 min
  • Is Italy Fatphobic

    Unpacking the popular narrative that European (and specifically Italian) women have a healthier, more relaxed relationship with their bodies than American women — and testing that narrative against lived experience and actual data.

    A viral Substack essay claimed European women don't hate their bodies the way American women do. Many people disagreed. Georgette and Valentina dig into the actual argument, and the messier truth underneath it: it's not that Italy has fewer body issues, it's that everyone in Italy feels entitled to an opinion about your body, out loud, to your face, starting in childhood.

    Sparked by three dueling Substack essays — Rachel Signer's beach-eyed case for European body confidence, Croatian writer Maja Roglic's counter that it's collectivism rather than positivity, and Angelica Frey's lived rebuttal — the conversation moves through Valentina's own memories of comments on her body, the TV culture that trained generations of Italians on what a body is "supposed" to look like, the class and gender lines running under all of it, and an honest, unscripted conversation about GLP-1's that neither of them expected to have on mic. It closes, as always, with Cose a Caso — this time turned inward, on the one thing they each genuinely love about her own body.

    Episode highlights
    • The essay that started it: Rachel Signer's "Why Don't European Women Hate Their Bodies?" — and why an American writer's beach-side observation landed so differently with the women actually living here
    • Valentina's take: Italian body freedom at the beach (the Brazilian bikini, every age, no apology) is real — but so is the collective right everyone feels to comment on your weight, your tan, your "sei stanca," to your face
    • Why gym locker rooms, big multigenerational families, and sheer population density might explain more about Italian body comfort than actual confidence does
    • The counter-essay: Maja Roglic's "European Women Aren't More Body Positive, They're Just Less Self-Obsessed" (on Substack) — a collectivist-vs-individualist framing neither host had considered before reading it
    • Angelica Frey's rebuttal, "Unfortunately, European Women Hate Their Bodies Too" where she shares a specific list of body comments she remembers from age 7 to 24.
    • Raffaella Carrà — filmed in three-quarter angle for her entire career to hide her hips — and a modern-day Italian TV performer still getting comments about post-baby weight 15+ years later
    • The pre-Berlusconi TV history neither host expected to get into: Cin Cin, and how daily televised objectification (not just an annual Victoria's Secret show) shaped a generation's sense of "normal"
    • It's not just women: Valentina's sons weight comments, Mario's father on his beard, and why body judgment in Italy cuts across gender
    • Filler, cosmetic surgery, and TikTok-driven beauty trends in southern Italy
    • A candid conversation about GLP-1s, where both hosts actually land, and Georgette's experience with a public-hospital endocrinologist in Florence who treated it holistically instead of just saying "lose weight"
    • Georgette's 2015 wedding dress story — the bridal shop that made her feel broken, and the Sicilian designer who didn't
    • Cose a Caso: what each of them actually loves about her own body — and why both answers end up being about motherhood

    Big thanks to Vivace Media for producing the show, and to ZO Working Sesto Fiorentino for hosting us. If this episode resonated with you, leave us a review, drop a comment, and share it with someone who needs to hear it.

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    48 min
  • The Algorithm Doesn't Speak Italian: AI in Italy: What We're Using, and What Can't Be Automated

    We knew that by the time we recorded, edited and released this episode, things would have advanced even further and sure enough they have. While we are currently seeing tech bros lament the too-fast progress of the machines they created, here us regular humans are trying to wade through what to think about it all...

    but what about Italy?

    Italy was the first country in the EU to pass a comprehensive AI law. It ranks seventh in the world for AI research, and yet, fewer than one in ten of its small businesses has started a single AI project.

    Into that contradiction, Valentina brings something more personal: a newsletter she wrote about FOBO — the fear of becoming obsolete — after the same question landed twice in one week, once from a table of fellow freelancers all twenty years into their careers, and once from her own AI students, decades younger and already asking if they'll have jobs at all.

    Joining Georgette and Valentina is the formidable Nadia Koski, a global marketing and communications leader specializing in AI transformation and host of the new podcast Still Human: Real Talk in the Age of AI. The conversation moves fast: why entry- and mid-level jobs are the ones actually at risk right now, the two-to-three-year lag before global AI trends land in Italy, real (and not-so-reassuring) numbers on how Italians are using these tools without understanding them, Italy's new AI law and a deepfake incident that hit disturbingly close to home for Valentina's own family, a classroom study with a genuinely counterintuitive result, and the income and gender gaps already baked into who benefits from AI. It closes with Cose a Caso — including the AI use nobody wants to admit to, and the one Italian job that may be truly automation-proof.

    Episode highlights
    • Where Valentina's FOBO newsletter actually came from: a table of fellow 40-something freelancers (including Giulia Scarpaleggia of Giulia's Kitchen) all asking the same question her own AI students ask her
    • Nadia on why entry-level and mid-level jobs face the first wave of disruption — with Meta's 10% layoffs and Klarna's 30%-cut-then-rehire as live examples
    • Valentina's "line": delegate everything to AI and you fall under it; use it to amplify your own judgment and you stay above it
    • "AI is always on LSD" — Valentina's classroom trick for teaching students to fact-check everything a chatbot gives them
    • Why Valentina tells students not to trust AI as a research tool, and the shift away from a straightforward Google search bar
    • The "washing machine effect" — running the same prompt through ChatGPT, Gemini, and Claude to compare results
    • Real Italian adoption numbers: 77% of Italians say they use AI tools (up from 69% in 2024), but only 7% claim in-depth understanding
    • Italy's AI law in practice — prison terms for harmful AI-generated content, and the deepfake incident involving Valentina's son's schoolmate that nearly went to the police
    • A study comparing three groups of high schoolers' AI use: the unrestricted-access group scored worst on tests; the group with guided, integrated use scored best
    • The US comparison: the Take It Down Act, deepfake victims, and who's already using the law to their own advantage
    • The World Bank stat Nadia cites: large language models are trained on roughly half the world's data — meaning half the world is missing from the information shaping all of this
    • SME AI adoption in Italy has doubled to 16% (from just over 8%) but still sits at half the EU average, with only 29% of small businesses applying AI to their core business
    • How AI is reshaping content and photography budgets for small businesses — and the much bigger disruption already hitting fashion e-commerce photo teams (see verification note)
    • Nadia on the one thing she still won't hand to AI: her own voice, her own writing, and who she trusts to help her with the rest
    • Cose a Caso: an AI palm reading, a chatbot relationship-advice confession, and the one Italian job *hint: it involves judgmental older men at construction sites* that nobody thinks AI can take

    Guest

    Nadia Koski is a global marketing and communications leader specializing in AI transformation, and the host of Still Human: Real Talk in the Age of AI — a new podcast examining technology's intersection with human experience, work, and identity. Based in Italy, she works globally, bringing a perspective that's genuinely international and unwilling to just cheerlead for the technology she works in. She previously created the Women Lead podcast and co-built The Digital Distillery podcast network, and now guest-lectures at Syracuse University, Florida State University, and the Florence School of the Arts. Based in Florence for the past 20 years, she also serves as a United Nations Women's delegate. [🔗 Still Human on Apple Podcasts · LinkedIn

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    49 min
  • The Guilt Algorithm: Why We Feel Bad About Everything

    We're back and doing what we do best: talking honestly about guilt.

    Not the tidy "here's how you can fix it" version, but the real thing: the guilt of dropping your daughter at camp while she clutches her stuffed hedgehog, the guilt of taking a vacation you've worked two years to earn, the guilt of being a working mother (or not being one), and the exhaustion we all seem to currrently embody.

    Georgette on leaving for Scotland and Northern Ireland mid-launch of Vivace Media; Valentina on why "lucky you" is the worst thing you can say to a freelancer taking three well-earned weeks off. Plus: the relocation-influencer trope of Italians "embracing summer," guilt vs. selfishness, why apologizing less changed how Valentina works, and chasing serenity instead of happiness.

    In Cose a Caso: we both share two things we refuse to feel guilty about.

    Recorded at ZoWorking, Sesto Fiorentino. Brought to you by Vivace Media.

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    47 min

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We’re Georgette and Valentina—two close friends, mothers, and creators navigating the messy middle of life in Florence, Italy.