S4E7 - You’ll meet Shay (SP4) in this episode which continues a series of interviews exploring the intersection of the Enneagram and Emotional Intelligence. Shay and I talk about our shared experiences with the Enneagram and being Self-Preservation Type 4s. We discuss our relationship to the passion of Envy, taking on other people's emotions, and suffering...as well as our perception of our self-awareness.