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Type War (what is it good for?)


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Love it or hate it, TypeScript is here to stay for the foreseeable future. But, what happens when widely adopted packages go completely Type free or remove TypeScript in favor of JS with type annotations? Join us to unpack these recent events with Rich Harris, creator of Svelte, as he walks us through the nuanced decision his team made for the Svelte project, and ofc, lots of laughs along the way.

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    • Rich Harris – GitHub, X
    • Amal Hussein – GitHub, X
    • Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

    Show Notes:

    • News article from May 2023 when Svelte switched from TS to JSDoc type annotations
    • DHH’s blog post “Open Source Hooliganism and the TypeScript Meltdown”
    • DHH’s tweet announcing Turbo’s removal of TS
    • Rich’s quote tweet of DHH Turbo announcement
    • JSDoc docs
    • Official TS docs highlighting support for JS Doc type annotations
    • ECMA proposal for Type Annotations
    • Principles of Writing Consistent, Idiomatic JavaScript
    • Alternate Episode Titles
      • Type me a river
      • To type or not to type
      • Someone is typing in the community…
      • Different types (or not) for different gripes
      • The script schism
      • Web Dev D Day
      • Going off (Type)Script
      • Losing the (Type)Script
      • While typing(scripting) it
      • Not my type
      • Can’t type this
      • You fought in the Type Wars?
      • Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

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