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In this episode, I had the pleasure of interviewing a naturist, you know who, as in Paul — someone who believes in embracing nature in a very natural way. You know, the kind of person who thinks “clothing optional” is just a bonus feature for life! We started this episode 7 weeks ago and finished it this evening; so buckle up or unbuckle and get the naked truth about what it is to be a naturist, and how it felt from Paul's phenomenological perspective, experiencing it as a child. 

Listen to how Paul discusses some fond childhood memories in this insightful and warm conversation from someone who grew up free to be completely naked in certain environments, to a person who grew up never being allowed that opportunity. 

We discussed why they prefer to go au naturel and the surprising benefits of letting it all hang out, like a carefree laundry day without the clothesline. Paul shared tales of sore bike rides and we talked about why stripping off clothes, isn't just about stripping of fabric, but more the fabric of where we've come from and what we have (and what we don't have). Where the only ‘outfit’ was sunscreen and confidence. Paul also talks about when he first started to become aware of his sexuality, and how he met his first wife! And believe it not, she caught his eye because she was wearing clothes! The absolute irony right.  


We discuss the clear boundaries between swingers and nudists, touch upon the amazing fetish awards and we touch upon a recent adult club night - where we ended up taking Paul's work-wife to (pleasures.) 

so – come and listen to another crazy episode, which is completely unscripted and listen to Charlotte giving Paul a laid-back interview, which turned into a therapy session at times. From the differences between kinsters and swingers, to Paul's own childhood experiences, boundaries, and self-discovery, while being a naturalist. From  'The slightly less than vanilla'.... aspect of cap 'd age and about how Paul could feel, as a child, that there was more of sexual energy within this part of the naturalist world. - to long summer holidays in France, to me getting locked in a poxy stair case right before we attended the infamous fetish awards.  We discuss the amazing alternative awards that are coming up in June and we will discuss that in detail, which will be very much incorporated within our 2-hour special coming in just a couple of months!!! Oooooo, how exciting. 

From the brainchild of Twisted Edge magazine and Thirteen Events, comes an award ceremony like no other - if you want to come - I'll put the link below :) We are going, and so many others are too, from the fetish content creator end, to the bloggers, right through to the hosts of the swinger events; so why not treat yourself and come and see what all the fun is about? 

https://www.thirteeneventsofficial.co.uk/alternative-awards-2025

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Pleasures with the school girl night – listen to us discuss the principles of a theme night and how the main stream part of society – aka the vanilla world lost their mind when they found out people within the lifestyle like to take part in dress up/role play. Considering Charlotte found herself being hounded by trolls for days on end about how much of a pervert she is; listen on to how we've become humbled by our recent experiences- and how our own kink levels have truly humbled us. But even humbling experiences should be welcomed too! It's all a continuous learning curve remember; listen on and enjoy how we face the harsh truths that come with learning that we may not be as kinky as we had previously presumed but it's all awesome baby! The kink community may frown upon swingers for its view regarding consent; and certain stereotypes; so let's discuss what we think about it all. 

Pleasures (The adult club) link is below 

https://pleasures-in-kent.co.uk/

We briefly spoke about penthouse too, including the epic monkey business travelling weekender – which we managed to do (only from the Saturday – to the Sunday) just two weeks before swingathon. We discuss the new but very promising monkey business travelling weekender's and then pretty much spend the entire hour and 20 minutes discussing what happened at the UK'S biggest adult lifestyle festival. 

For the Monkey business travelling weekender - link is below. 

https://www.monkeybusiness1.com/

For swingathon

https://swingathon.uk/

Would society be more open if we were met with less hostility and discriminatory actions in the social world? Considering the sheer level of sensationalism within the main stream media and the level of disinformation on our social media platforms is crazy; let's get some real truth out there. It's just couple swapping apparently. (When it obviously isn’t) Being their true authentic selves; a bridge being built to unite all the different communities. We briefly touch upon conflict and the politics; and how safe the alternative lifestyles are. With the 1st ever content creator festival being held by the one and only HOB events; founded by Onyx and Vargr – who also do O&V events; come and have a listen into how it all went down! We were incredibly lucky to have access to the OnlyFest side, as well as the swingathon and Fetfest sides – so grab a cuppa and listen on to hear our side of the kinky story. From wax play on the hottest day of the year (at that point in the year) to the raw truth behind the infamous 50 woman only orgy 

For information on the HOB (content creators) events, link is below,

https://www.houseofbathory.co.uk/

For all of the social's of everyone we mentioned; head over to our Instagram for all of the tagged people. :) 

Next episode will be published a lot quicker as it's half reordered already. 

Exclaimer: We managed to record the swingathon piece two times – because 1) we ended up getting interrupted and 2) we loved swingathon sooooooooooo much this year, that we wanted to talk about it twice but it did mean that when it came to Paul editing it- it took him over 7 hours to complete it, so we can only but apologise if it is at times a little confusing; plus the sound quality jumps at 39 minutes in – then bounces back to normality a few minutes after. Ever so sorry for this sound issue, we can only improve for the future :) 

“The conflicts within consent – across the different ethically alternative nonmonogamous relationships.” blog post is coming real soon and will be available on the conflicte

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We were forced to go vanilla for a bit but only by our own actions, so it's all cool. With our usual laid back chatter and giggling with plenty of possible Segway's, we managed to, (just about) to keep it on some sort of track. As always, it’s eloquently unprofessional manner shows through. 

With a very brief summery of the two adult lifestyle festival's that we attended last year, followed by the amazing outfits at swingathon that we both wore, that only a handful of people managed to see. Because of the sheer weight of Paul's helmet (of the outfit now, you dirty minded individual's hehe)  - he had to take it back to the tent after a mere 45 minutes out. We are though, pretty damn sure  it could have won if it was left on long enough to be appreciated. Swingathon 2024 is going to be far bigger this year and we already have our tickets, so you want to find out how to purchase yours, the link is below people. 18- 21st July is going to be amazing :)

Last years Swingathon was somewhat kinkier than normal, so this year is going to be even bigger in regards to the whole kink community combining with the swinging community. With mere expression of individual impulse and feeling, frequently amatory, and pure lust; it really isn't going to be one to miss!  So having both Fetfest and Swingathon combined is going to make double the fun. 

 Home - Swingathon

We discussed visits to pleasures (where we shared an a very naughty experience filled with pure curiosity and lust in their little dungeon area) Although pleasures isn't anything but small - so if you want to learn more; the link is below.

https://pleasures-in-kent.co.uk/

We even managed to have a little discussion on the current societal situation regarding gender identity diversity which appears to be shaking up the LGBTQ community. Discussing the constant pressure of the  heteronormative world and how this is somewhat affecting the scene - when it comes to men and bisexuality. 

We very briefly touch upon an offer we had with a global swinging radio station for a weekly show, which was going to monetise the podcast through it,  but I was on the precipice of finishing my degree; so as always in life, the timing was impeccably incorrect.

From bad timings in life to bad timings arriving for stuff - we almost turned up too late to the Vanilla Alternative’s festival of fun festival - boot camp themed. We are planning on going to the May weekend festival and the Main August festivals of fun. Here is the link if you want to learn more about the amazing Vanilla Alternative (members only) club......

The Vanilla Alternative Exclusive Private Members Club - Apply For Membership and Book (va2.co.uk)

We also touch upon the entice night at xtasia, which was amazing. We love seeing new clubs and the website for this is - you guess it below....

Xtasia Adult Sexual Entertainment Venue – Xtasia.co.uk

Charlotte is writing about this night in far greater detail than what we managed to discuss on here; so you know where to go to find that :) But just in case you don't, here is the link...

https://ninjaconflicted.blogspot.com/

 What's even nicer,  is the vanilla world writing articles in a much brighter light and not just the same sensationalised misinformed gibberish. 

Swingathon returns to Lincolnshire with additional fetish festival held across three days

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For once we managed to get an episode out in a decent time frame; without the usual 9 month delay. 

 The degree is over - finally. Let’s hope I’m in good spirits the next episode as I could have failed, you just don’t know! The pressure is finally off and fingers crossed you can tell in char’s voice. Although in char’s own words… ‘I feel like the 5,000 word may have caused some damage and I may need to sleep until Christmas to recover hehe’. At lease you guys listening don’t need to wait until Christmas for the next episode hey.

 Through char’s new event at the D2S club - to the amazing bad girls event hosted by the one and only Kim @ penthouse and her husband Paul - who runs the tattooed talent bi nights there)

We go through the awesomeness of the new D2S club in Grantham - and a bank holiday trip down to Devon to finally catch up with two of our favourite humans. The weather was Devine, but not as Devine as the play time. Char is working on a free swingers newbie guide to swinging. It’s almost finished, so it will be up on our website (no doubt twitter / Instagram too) fast forward through all of the very casual, laid back Banta - you will find the eagerly anticipated interview with the owners of the new pineapple app. 

To download to the brand new app and give it a try. 

https://www.thepineapple.app/

https://instagram.com/thepineapple.app?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

For information regarding the biggest adult lifestyle festival, see the website below.

https://swingathon.co.uk/swingathon/welcome/

Information about up and coming events at the new D2S CLUB can be found on their Instagram page.

https://instagram.com/d2sclub?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Char and Bry's links can be found below too.....

https://allmylinks.com/charandbry

Future bad girls events hosted by  pink_flamingo_Parties and tattooed Talent bi nights can be found on the penthouse website below......

https://www.penthouseplayrooms.com

Kim's ( pink_flamingo_Parties) socials can  be found below...

https://instagram.com/pink_flamingo_parties?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

tattooed Talents socials....................

https://instagram.com/tattooed_talent_parties?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

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A very long awaited, yet equally laid back episode. Tune in and chill with us  - as we sit down on our sofa discussing our wedding, trips to pleasures and new adventures at the beautiful adult club that is  penthouse. Come and enjoy the non-scripted Banta and laughs; as we take you along for the ride in more ways than one :) We discuss the politics of the swinging adult life-style - all while maintaining our un-bias perspective - which with all of the telly programs coming out, its a raw & honest view.  We even managed a very informal interview with Matt - mr swingathon', well the man who runs the now - biggest annual, UK swinging adult lifestyle. Was really hoping to have both Matt and Stacy - but hey, ho - it is what it is. It was awesome to have an extraordinarily fast paced chat, although it's fair to say that we managed to fit so much into such a short period of time. We managed to briefly go over previous years - and even more amazing to through what is store for this up and coming 2023 swingathon.

For those who are not new to the swinging scene but haven't yet heard of the swinging festivals... the website for swingathon is below.

https://swingathon.co.uk/swingathon/welcome/



If any of you listening wanted more information on the adult club - penthouse. The link is below you lovies :)
https://www.penthouseplayrooms.com/


For the club that we spoke about - that was Pleasures, their website is below

https://pleasures-in-kent.co.uk/

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Festival's, orgies and cake. Well there was a song titled 'cake by the ocean', so why can't there be a podcast named 'cake by the orgies'. hehe. Well to be completely honest, we was wandering around the Vanilla Alternative with bowls of fruit, but eating Victoria was well needed after the fun and in that, we do mean eating the Victoria sponge lol, not a person named Victoria.

Can't quite believe that its been a ridiculously 9 months  since we published an episode. We are 100% aiming to get another one done in the next 3 months. The wedding, family, only fans,  work and university have all been stealing our time.  Covering the amazing summer solstice bi night,  Swingathon 2022, Festival of fun 22, recent trips to pleasures, max's garden the amazing 1st visit to secrets for one of our besties birthdays.  We just hope we kept you listening to the end and in the next episode we hope to discuss our up and coming visit to the penthouse and DV8.

The summer solstice and festival of fun was situated at the lovely Vanilla Alterative. Website can be found below
 
https://va2.co.uk/

The awesome 5 day festival mentioned which is now officially the biggest adult lifestyle festival  in the UK. The link to their website is below.

https://swingathon.co.uk/


The club that we discussed in the south east of the UK (the one with the massive bed was pleasures - in Kent

https://pleasures-in-kent.co.uk/

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For the beautiful naturalist place we mentioned - here's their website. But please remember - *PLEASE NOTE : this is a purely naturalist site and not a swingers venue. *

https://maxsgarden.net/

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Tattooed talent bi parties is a bi night that you will never forget and they are now being held at the penthouse and he has a new website too.

click the link below to see all the details.

https://tattooedtalent.com/

Penthouse's website is below :)

https://www.penthouseplayrooms.com/

The website link for the lovely club we briefly discussed in Devon is below.

http://www.secretsforsharing.co.uk/party-dates.htm

Barenecessities are a new toy business who approached us at the Festival of Fun. We are going to be doing some awesome promotional work for them as the toys are fab! Their website can be found below.

https://linktr.ee/thebarenecessities?utm_source

To help you with a truly awesome visual representation to go along as you're listening to this podcast episode and your yet to see the TikTok videos that have been disused, the links are below you sexy listeners.

https://www.tiktok.com/@backupbiproperswingers/video/7137941127549701382?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1

https://www.tiktok.com/@backupbiproperswingers/video/7130345182003875077?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1

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Its been 6 months since our last episode (which is pretty disappointing our behalf so apologies) Vanilla life at times gets in the way and sometimes its just enviably. With studying and employment effecting our enjoyment - we've just had our hands tied (and not in the way we like!) 

Focusing mainly upon the three festivals that we attended during the summer and considering it had been well over a year since we had done anything like that since the Covid lock downs happened last March. We 100% made the most out of it and even started our own Mexican wave orgy in the field at the first ever swingfon...

Enjoy this fun episode where we go into details of the fabulous swingfon, the VA festival of Fun.. And the treasurefon.

The scene is 100% recovering since the lock down and social distancing measures and we couldn't be any more thrilled and can't wait to see what's going to happen in the near future in the scene! X

The Va bi night blog post can be found here......

https://ninjaconflicted.blogspot.com/2021/07/the-big-bi-play-at-one-and-only-va.html

If you want to know more details regarding Pleasures (Kent) The link for the website is below....

https://pleasures-in-kent.co.uk/

The Vanilla Alternative's websites is below...

https://va2.co.uk/gallery/ 

The DV8 club can be found below

http://www.kinkyengland.com/

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We're both so sorry for it being so damn long since doing an episode. With Paul working full time from home (which is making him work longer at times because his work is just there.)  Charlotte with her studies and juggling family responsibilities has been taking so much of her time, so being able to get the time and energy has been somewhat difficult.

With Covidageddon beginning to come to an end (fingers crossed the whole situation stays improving) we've decided to do an episode discussing some up and coming events, including The Festival of fun at the Vanilla Alternative and Swingathon in Lincolnshire. We briefly touch upon the bi nights at Eureka's that we're going to be hosting soon.  We mention an awesome experience we had recently when a real fan got contact to gift us a very special machine! We cover sexual health, the sad closure of smaller clubs due to Covid restrictions and how lucky we feel to be able to attend these fabulous festivals again.

https://va2.co.uk/
http://www.eureka-naturist-club.co.uk/events/
https://swingathon.co.uk/swingathon/dare-to-share

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This episode is regarding the possible dangers of meeting new people on the scene and then we discuss the awesome time we both had at the Festival of fun (Which is held at the beautiful Vanilla Alternative located in Bedford) 

We've been almost taken back to see so many people wanting to dip their toes in regards to the scene and we're both so proud of you all for wanting to do that. Some of you have even taken those first step and have started up your own profiles on Fabswingers, which is fantastic,  but we feel we should give you our thoughts about online safely and hopefully some of our tips will help you all on your journey. All exists is now and why not enjoy it as much as you possibly can. 

We also decided to discuss with all of you sexy listeners-of one of our past experiences at one of our swinging festivals. They are kind of new to us too, as we only went to our first two last year and although Swingfields got cancelled this year, Festival of Fun still was able to go ahead. With an amazing manager behind the Club, it went ahead and we hope our account of those two wonderful days will bring you some joy in these dark times. 

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This is our 2nd bonus episode for all of you lovely people out there who are tuning in to our swinging lifestyle podcast. 
We have taken quite some time editing this one and both want to give you a massive heart felt apology over just how long it took to get into publication. 

Our personal and vanilla lives have been crazy and since being able to get out and travel after the lockdown eased, we defiantly made up for lost time. Cornwall, Bournemouth, Lakes district and Brighton for Charlottes birthday,  

It was Pride weekend, so was recorded 3 months ago and we decided to get a cabin at one of our favourite clubs-Eurekas in kent, south of England. 
Now this little snippet into one of our crazy filled weekends down the club is just a shared experinace...its not an actual club review, that is going to be coming soon. 

Thanks so much for your patience and we are loving the amount of love we are receiving from all of our social media platforms, can't wait to do another proper episode.