I recently traveled to Ukraine and, on September 5, recorded this episode in person with Alexandra Mezinova, founder of the country’s largest no-kill animal shelter in fact the largest in all of Europe, and her sister Larysa Khmara, who plays a key role in running it. Their shelter is home to more than 3,000 animals, with over one-third rescued directly from the front lines of the war.

Together, the sisters share an unflinching look at life in Kyiv during wartime—how they care for thousands of dogs, cats, and other animals while supporting their community, and what true resilience and compassion look like when every day brings new challenges.

Recorded on the ground just weeks ago, this conversation captures the sounds, spirit, and unwavering hope of modern Ukraine, proving that love and determination can save lives—even in the most difficult circumstances.

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