Macro visionary Raoul Pal joins Unblocking the Chain for a wide-ranging discussion on the future of digital assets, stablecoins, and AI. Drawing on decades of experience from his days running GLG’s Global Macro Fund to founding Real Vision and Global Macro Investor, Raoul outlines why blockchain is moving faster than any previous technology adoption curve — already twice the speed of the early Internet. He explains how institutional adoption, tokenization, and stablecoins are reshaping finance, and explores how artificial intelligence will merge with blockchain to create what he calls an “Internet of Intelligence.” From Bitcoin as digital gold to the coming $100-trillion on-chain economy, this is Raoul at his most expansive — a masterclass in where macro, crypto, and technology converge.

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zPodcast Speakers:

Michael Prendiville (co-host), Co-founder, JellyC and Founder, TAF Capital ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BIO⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Drew Bradford, (co-host), CEO, Catena Digital and Chairman, JellyC ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BIO⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

 Unblocking the Chain is brought to you by JellyC and Catena Digital.

About Catena Digital

Catena Digital is an Australian dollar-backed stablecoin. Through the thoughtful application of emerging technology, Catena Digital empowers businesses and asset exchanges to facilitate fast and cost-effective transactions securely. With over 100 years of combined global experience, Catena Digital's team has a wealth of financial markets, governance, and technology knowledge to support their customers’ and partners’ successful transition to digital assets.

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.catenadigital.com.au/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Podcast Produced by:

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://piccolopodcasts.com.au/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Opinions expressed are solely those of the hosts and the guests. Please do your own research or consult a professional before making investment decisions.

In this episode, Michael sits down with Will Hamilton, Chief Commercial Officer at DigitalX. Will shares his journey from Ernst & Young and Sol Pattinson into the crypto world, with pivotal roles at Trovio, Animoca Brands, and now DigitalX. He explains DigitalX’s bold Bitcoin-first strategy, insights on managing counterparty risk after the 2022 collapses, and how new technologies are reshaping digital finance. Will also outlines the challenges and opportunities for institutional adoption in Australia, DigitalX’s plans to minimise burn rates, and what success will look like in the coming years.

About JellyC 

JellyC is an Australian-based leading digital asset management firm committed to providing innovative investment solutions. With a focus on security, transparency, and superior returns, JellyC offers unique opportunities for sophisticated and institutional investors to gain exposure to the rapidly growing blockchain industry. 

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.jellyc.io⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Podcast Speakers:

Michael Prendiville (co-host), Co-founder, JellyC and Founder, TAF Capital ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BIO⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Drew Bradford, (co-host), CEO, Catena Digital and Chairman, JellyC ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BIO⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

 Unblocking the Chain is brought to you by JellyC and Catena Digital.

About Catena Digital

Catena Digital is an Australian dollar-backed stablecoin. Through the thoughtful application of emerging technology, Catena Digital empowers businesses and asset exchanges to facilitate fast and cost-effective transactions securely. With over 100 years of combined global experience, Catena Digital's team has a wealth of financial markets, governance, and technology knowledge to support their customers’ and partners’ successful transition to digital assets.

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.catenadigital.com.au/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Podcast Produced by:

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://piccolopodcasts.com.au/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Opinions expressed are solely those of the hosts and the guests. Please do your own research or consult a professional before making investment decisions.

In this episode of Unblocking the Chain, hosts Michael Prendiville, and Drew Bradford, sit down with Dave Dredge, of Convex Strategies, for a deep dive into volatility, risk management, and the global financial system. From Black Monday to Bitcoin, Dredge shares decades of insights on hedging, structured products, and why long volatility can be the key to unlocking innovation and wealth preservation. The conversation spans demographics, productivity, superannuation reform, and how smarter risk mitigation could drive investment into the technologies that will shape our future.

About JellyC 

JellyC is an Australian-based leading digital asset management firm committed to providing innovative investment solutions. With a focus on security, transparency, and superior returns, JellyC offers unique opportunities for sophisticated and institutional investors to gain exposure to the rapidly growing blockchain industry. 

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.jellyc.io⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Podcast Speakers:

Michael Prendiville (co-host), Co-founder, JellyC and Founder, TAF Capital ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BIO⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Drew Bradford, (co-host), CEO, Catena Digital and Chairman, JellyC ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BIO⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

 Unblocking the Chain is brought to you by JellyC and Catena Digital.

About Catena Digital

Catena Digital is an Australian dollar-backed stablecoin. Through the thoughtful application of emerging technology, Catena Digital empowers businesses and asset exchanges to facilitate fast and cost-effective transactions securely. With over 100 years of combined global experience, Catena Digital's team has a wealth of financial markets, governance, and technology knowledge to support their customers’ and partners’ successful transition to digital assets.

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.catenadigital.com.au/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Podcast Produced by:

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://piccolopodcasts.com.au/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Opinions expressed are solely those of the hosts and the guests. Please do your own research or consult a professional before making investment decisions.

In this milestone episode of Unblocking the Chain, Michael Prendiville and Drew Bradford celebrate a major breakthrough in Australian crypto as Catena Digital receives its full AFS license to issue a stablecoin. Joined by special guest Andrew Crawford from Franklin Templeton, they explore the real-world applications of stablecoins, the evolution of blockchain in global finance, and the revolutionary potential of tokenized money market funds. From Hong Kong’s stablecoin regime to reducing FX friction and cutting out banking middlemen, this is a bold look at the future of programmable money and digital trust.

About JellyC 

JellyC is an Australian-based leading digital asset management firm committed to providing innovative investment solutions. With a focus on security, transparency, and superior returns, JellyC offers unique opportunities for sophisticated and institutional investors to gain exposure to the rapidly growing blockchain industry. 

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.jellyc.io⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Podcast Speakers:

Michael Prendiville (co-host), Co-founder, JellyC and Founder, TAF Capital ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BIO⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Drew Bradford, (co-host), CEO, Catena Digital and Chairman, JellyC ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BIO⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

 Unblocking the Chain is brought to you by JellyC and Catena Digital.

About Catena Digital

Catena Digital is an Australian dollar-backed stablecoin. Through the thoughtful application of emerging technology, Catena Digital empowers businesses and asset exchanges to facilitate fast and cost-effective transactions securely. With over 100 years of combined global experience, Catena Digital's team has a wealth of financial markets, governance, and technology knowledge to support their customers’ and partners’ successful transition to digital assets.

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.catenadigital.com.au/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Podcast Produced by:

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://piccolopodcasts.com.au/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Opinions expressed are solely those of the hosts and the guests. Please do your own research or consult a professional before making investment decisions.

In this landmark episode of Unblocking the Chain, host Michael Prendiville is joined by Drew Bradford, Chairman of JellyC and CEO of Catena Digital, to unpack one of the biggest developments in Australian crypto: Catena Digital Awarded AFS License to issue Stable Coins. They dive deep into what this means for the future of programmable money, Catena's participation in the RBA and DFCRC’s Project Acacia, and why stablecoins could unlock a new era of financial efficiency and transparency. From network infrastructure to the global impact of the U.S. Genius Act, this episode is a masterclass in where crypto meets traditional finance—and where Australia fits into the evolving digital economy.

About JellyC 

JellyC is an Australian-based leading digital asset management firm committed to providing innovative investment solutions. With a focus on security, transparency, and superior returns, JellyC offers unique opportunities for sophisticated and institutional investors to gain exposure to the rapidly growing blockchain industry. 

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.jellyc.io⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Podcast Speakers:

Michael Prendiville (co-host), Co-founder, JellyC and Founder, TAF Capital ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BIO⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Drew Bradford, (co-host), CEO, Catena Digital and Chairman, JellyC ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BIO⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

 Unblocking the Chain is brought to you by JellyC and Catena Digital.

About Catena Digital

Catena Digital is an Australian dollar-backed stablecoin. Through the thoughtful application of emerging technology, Catena Digital empowers businesses and asset exchanges to facilitate fast and cost-effective transactions securely. With over 100 years of combined global experience, Catena Digital's team has a wealth of financial markets, governance, and technology knowledge to support their customers’ and partners’ successful transition to digital assets.

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.catenadigital.com.au/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Podcast Produced by:

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://piccolopodcasts.com.au/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Opinions expressed are solely those of the hosts and the guests. Please do your own research or consult a professional before making investment decisions.

In this episode of Unblocking the Chain, Tim Whybourne, Managing Partner at Emanuel Whybourne & Loehr, unpacks the evolving role of crypto assets in modern wealth management. From Bitcoin as digital gold to Ethereum’s real-world utility and the growing relevance of Solana, Tim explains how his boutique firm is helping high-net-worth clients navigate crypto with tailored strategies. While many traditional firms are still hesitant, Emanuel Whybourne & Loehr is actively integrating digital assets into diversified portfolios. If you're curious about how crypto can fit into a long-term investment strategy, this episode is a must-listen.

About JellyC 

JellyC is an Australian-based leading digital asset management firm committed to providing innovative investment solutions. With a focus on security, transparency, and superior returns, JellyC offers unique opportunities for sophisticated and institutional investors to gain exposure to the rapidly growing blockchain industry. 

⁠⁠⁠⁠www.jellyc.io⁠⁠⁠⁠

Podcast Speakers:

Michael Prendiville (co-host), Co-founder, JellyC and Founder, TAF Capital ⁠⁠⁠⁠BIO⁠⁠⁠⁠

Drew Bradford, (co-host), CEO, Catena Digital and Chairman, JellyC ⁠⁠⁠⁠BIO⁠⁠⁠⁠

 Unblocking the Chain is brought to you by JellyC and Catena Digital.

About Catena Digital

Catena Digital is an Australian dollar-backed stablecoin. Through the thoughtful application of emerging technology, Catena Digital empowers businesses and asset exchanges to facilitate fast and cost-effective transactions securely. With over 100 years of combined global experience, Catena Digital's team has a wealth of financial markets, governance, and technology knowledge to support their customers’ and partners’ successful transition to digital assets.

⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.catenadigital.com.au/⁠⁠⁠⁠

Podcast Produced by:

⁠⁠⁠⁠https://piccolopodcasts.com.au/⁠⁠⁠⁠

This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Opinions expressed are solely those of the hosts and the guests. Please do your own research or consult a professional before making investment decisions.

In this special episode of Unblocking the Chain, host Drew Bradford is joined by the Hon Dr Andrew Charlton MP — Member for Parramatta, Cabinet Secretary, and Assistant Minister for Science, Technology and the Digital Economy. Dr Charlton shares exclusive insights into the Albanese Government’s approach to digital assets, blockchain regulation, and Australia's future in the global tech economy. From tackling de-banking and scam prevention to the productivity potential of AI and tokenisation — this is a must-listen conversation with one of the country’s most influential voices in digital policy.

About JellyC 

JellyC is an Australian-based leading digital asset management firm committed to providing innovative investment solutions. With a focus on security, transparency, and superior returns, JellyC offers unique opportunities for sophisticated and institutional investors to gain exposure to the rapidly growing blockchain industry. 

⁠⁠⁠www.jellyc.io⁠⁠⁠

Podcast Speakers:

Michael Prendiville (co-host), Co-founder, JellyC and Founder, TAF Capital ⁠⁠⁠BIO⁠⁠⁠

Drew Bradford, (co-host), CEO, Catena Digital and Chairman, JellyC ⁠⁠⁠BIO⁠⁠⁠

 Unblocking the Chain is brought to you by JellyC and Catena Digital.

About Catena Digital

Catena Digital is an Australian dollar-backed stablecoin. Through the thoughtful application of emerging technology, Catena Digital empowers businesses and asset exchanges to facilitate fast and cost-effective transactions securely. With over 100 years of combined global experience, Catena Digital's team has a wealth of financial markets, governance, and technology knowledge to support their customers’ and partners’ successful transition to digital assets.

⁠⁠⁠https://www.catenadigital.com.au/⁠⁠⁠

Podcast Produced by:

⁠⁠⁠https://piccolopodcasts.com.au/⁠⁠⁠

This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Opinions expressed are solely those of the hosts and the guests. Please do your own research or consult a professional before making investment decisions.

In this episode, Michael and Drew speak with Blake Cassidy and Tracey Plowman from Bamboo about how their app is making crypto and precious metals investing more accessible through micro-investing and round-ups. They explore the origins of Bamboo, lessons from navigating market cycles, the role of regulation, and what’s next for crypto investing in Australia. A must-listen for crypto newcomers and seasoned traders alike.

About JellyC 

JellyC is an Australian-based leading digital asset management firm committed to providing innovative investment solutions. With a focus on security, transparency, and superior returns, JellyC offers unique opportunities for sophisticated and institutional investors to gain exposure to the rapidly growing blockchain industry. 

⁠⁠www.jellyc.io⁠⁠

Podcast Speakers:

Michael Prendiville (co-host), Co-founder, JellyC and Founder, TAF Capital ⁠⁠BIO⁠⁠

Drew Bradford, (co-host), CEO, Catena Digital and Chairman, JellyC ⁠⁠BIO⁠⁠

 Unblocking the Chain is brought to you by JellyC and Catena Digital.

About Catena Digital

Catena Digital is an Australian dollar-backed stablecoin. Through the thoughtful application of emerging technology, Catena Digital empowers businesses and asset exchanges to facilitate fast and cost-effective transactions securely. With over 100 years of combined global experience, Catena Digital's team has a wealth of financial markets, governance, and technology knowledge to support their customers’ and partners’ successful transition to digital assets.

⁠⁠https://www.catenadigital.com.au/⁠⁠

Podcast Produced by:

⁠⁠https://piccolopodcasts.com.au/⁠⁠

This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Opinions expressed are solely those of the hosts and the guests. Please do your own research or consult a professional before making investment decisions.

In this episode, Drew Bradford is joined by David Menz, Head of Policy at Coinbase APAC, for a deep dive into the current state of crypto regulation in Australia and globally. With the federal election looming, they unpack what a change in government could mean for the digital assets industry, highlight bipartisan support for innovation, and explore the power of movements like Stand With Crypto. From Menz’s early days in poker and Bitcoin forums to leading crypto policy across ASIC, Treasury, and now Coinbase, this episode blends personal insights with strategic foresight on where crypto policy is heading.

About JellyC 

JellyC is an Australian-based leading digital asset management firm committed to providing innovative investment solutions. With a focus on security, transparency, and superior returns, JellyC offers unique opportunities for sophisticated and institutional investors to gain exposure to the rapidly growing blockchain industry. 

⁠www.jellyc.io⁠

Podcast Speakers:

Michael Prendiville (co-host), Co-founder, JellyC and Founder, TAF Capital ⁠BIO⁠

Drew Bradford, (co-host), CEO, Catena Digital and Chairman, JellyC ⁠BIO⁠

 Unblocking the Chain is brought to you by JellyC and Catena Digital.

About Catena Digital

Catena Digital is an Australian dollar-backed stablecoin. Through the thoughtful application of emerging technology, Catena Digital empowers businesses and asset exchanges to facilitate fast and cost-effective transactions securely. With over 100 years of combined global experience, Catena Digital's team has a wealth of financial markets, governance, and technology knowledge to support their customers’ and partners’ successful transition to digital assets.

⁠https://www.catenadigital.com.au/⁠

Podcast Produced by:

⁠https://piccolopodcasts.com.au/⁠

This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Opinions expressed are solely those of the hosts and the guests. Please do your own research or consult a professional before making investment decisions.

In this special pre-election episode, host Drew Bradford is joined by Steve Vallas, CEO of Blockchain APAC, to unpack the state of crypto and blockchain regulation in Australia—and how the upcoming federal election might shape its future.

With over 4 million Australians reportedly invested in digital assets, both major political parties are now publicly aligning on the need for regulatory clarity.

About JellyC 

JellyC is an Australian-based leading digital asset management firm committed to providing innovative investment solutions. With a focus on security, transparency, and superior returns, JellyC offers unique opportunities for sophisticated and institutional investors to gain exposure to the rapidly growing blockchain industry. 

www.jellyc.io

Podcast Speakers:

Michael Prendiville (co-host), Co-founder, JellyC and Founder, TAF Capital BIO

Drew Bradford, (co-host), CEO, Catena Digital and Chairman, JellyC BIO

 Unblocking the Chain is brought to you by JellyC and Catena Digital.

About Catena Digital

Catena Digital is an Australian dollar-backed stablecoin. Through the thoughtful application of emerging technology, Catena Digital empowers businesses and asset exchanges to facilitate fast and cost-effective transactions securely. With over 100 years of combined global experience, Catena Digital's team has a wealth of financial markets, governance, and technology knowledge to support their customers’ and partners’ successful transition to digital assets.

https://www.catenadigital.com.au/

Podcast Produced by:

https://piccolopodcasts.com.au/

This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Opinions expressed are solely those of the hosts and the guests. Please do your own research or consult a professional before making investment decisions.