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July 03, 2024Bits + Bips: Ethereum and Solana ETFs and Why Crypto Is Poised for a Breakout - Ep. 668
Are Solana ETFs on the brink of approval? How might political outcomes influence this decision?
Join hosts James Seyffart, Alex Kruger, and Joe McCann as they delve into the latest buzz around Solana’s potential spot ETFs, dissect the SEC's puzzling delay on Ethereum ETFs, and debate why Bitcoin’s recent performance has diverged from the NASDAQ.
They also discuss the U.S. presidential election, the event that Alex says was the “second most bizarre thing” he’s seen in his life, what the bond market seems to indicate about expectations for a Trump presidency, and how upcoming nonfarm payroll reports and potential rate might affect the markets.
Show highlights:
00:00 Intro
01:47 How political outcomes might influence the approval of spot Solana ETFs
04:16 Whether futures ETFs are 100% needed for an approval of spot crypto ETFs
09:26 The high premium on Grayscale's Solana Trust (GSOL)
13:50 How the outcome of the 2024 U.S. presidential election could impact the crypto industry
20:55 Why the SEC delayed the launch of the Ethereum ETF
24:53 How the upcoming nonfarm payroll report and potential rate cuts impact market volatility and the Federal Reserve's decisions
27:51 How the rise of populist candidates in France and changes in currency markets might affect the US dollar and the broader economic landscape
31:40 How Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Solana performed in Q2, and the surprising outperformance of BONK
34:45 Why Bitcoin's performance diverged from the Nasdaq's recent rally
45:48 How recent movements in long-term bond rates are linked to political changes, such as the rise of right-wing populism and concerns about fiscal responsibility
52:45 How FTX creditors could potentially influence market dynamics, and the irony in the US government using Coinbase as a custodian
Hosts:
James Seyffart, Research Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence
Alex Kruger, Founder of Asgard
Joe McCann, Founder, CEO, and CIO of Asymmetric

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56 min
July 02, 2024How to Figure Out Whether a Crypto Token Is Worth Its Trading Price - Ep. 667
The problem of low float, high fully diluted valuation (FDV) coins is one that is frequently discussed in crypto. But there’s another wrinkle: investors need to understand the unrealized gains of these coins to really understand the price.
In this episode, Jose Macedo of Delphi Digital and Ari Paul of Blocktower Capital explain the various metrics that reveal what a coin is really worth, why a wave of token unlocks that will be hitting the crypto markets in the next few years are not bullish, and whether there is a better way to design token unlocks for teams and insiders.
Plus, they cover whether venture capitalists are extractive to crypto, whether these games with circulating supply and FDV have caused investors to turn to memecoins, and why they believe the ICO era was better for retail investors.
Show highlights:
00:00 Intro
01:58 Why upcoming token unlocks are creating market jitters
10:22 How the ratio of unrealized gains to market cap influences token price movements
12:22 How some token projects manipulate their reported circulating supply
20:24 Whether and how everyday investors can uncover the truth about token projects
23:37 What secondary market trading says about the potential impact of upcoming token unlocks
34:50 Why Jose believes that the current token launch strategy, despite its flaws, is still favored by insiders and unlikely to change soon
41:02 Why some projects favor decisions that are more likely to result in short-term gains over long-term success
46:36 Why Jose believes that simple time-based token unlocks often work better than complex metrics, and how projects can balance funding with realistic success metrics
53:04 Why Ari believes the SEC's investigations into VCs for acting as securities dealers might be justified, and how these practices resemble pump-and-dump schemes
59:11 With numerous token unlocks looming, why the outlook is bearish for many projects, and what challenges they face in mitigating potential sell-offs
1:05:52 Why many crypto investors might end up holding the bag in the current cycle, despite plans to sell early and avoid losses
1:12:27 What the future role of VCs is in crypto, and how the influx of token unlocks and the rise of memecoins could shape the bull cycle
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Guests:
Jose Macedo, founder at Delphi Labs
Ari Paul, CIO of Blocktower Capital
Previous appearances on Unchained:
Ari Paul on Why Bitcoin Is a Good Value Buy
Ari Paul of BlockTower Capital on the Crypto Downturn and Why It Could Change Direction
Links
High FDV and unlocks:
Unchained:
How ‘Fully Diluted Valuation’ Can Be a Very Dangerous Metric for Crypto Markets to Rely On
Who’s to Blame for the Underperformance of Low Float, High FDV Tokens?
80% of Tokens on Binance Are Down Since Listing Date: SwissBorg Researcher
Cobie newsletter: New launches (part 1) - private capture, phantom pricing
Rocknblock: Token vesting explainer
CoinDesk: 'Liquid Vesting' Is Oxymoronic Blockchain Feature That Lets Early Investors Sell Without Waiting
Jose’s thread that inspired the episode
Ari’s post responding to Jose’s thread
Token.unlocks.app: Token vesting tracker
Solutions:
Hack VC: Potential Solutions to Crypto's Unlock Problem
Colony Lab: Early-Stage Program & Liquid Vesting
Imran Khan’s tweet on Blast https://x.com/lmrankhan/status/1806040646433522149

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1 hr 28 min
June 28, 2024Why the Mt. Gox Repayments May Not Hurt the Bitcoin Price Much - Ep. 666
Ten and a half years after filing for bankruptcy, Mt. Gox is finally set to disburse 142,000 Bitcoin worth nearly $9 billion to creditors between July and October.
Market concern has been growing over the potential impact on Bitcoin prices, but Alex Thorn, head of research at Galaxy, explains why only a small fraction of those bitcoins will be sold. He also discusses the implications of this redistribution on the market, the potential success of Ethereum ETFs, and the chances of a Solana ETF approval.
Show highlights:
00:00 Intro
02:04 Why Alex estimates the amount of bitcoins that creditors sell will be a tiny fraction of the 142,000 to be repaid
13:35 What market shocks could arise from Mt. Gox creditors receiving billions in Bitcoin, and why he believes Bitcoin Cash is the real wild card
18:18 Whether Ethereum ETFs could be as successful as Bitcoin ETFs in attracting investors
23:06 Whether potential outflows from Grayscale's Ethereum Trust will dampen the excitement around Ethereum ETFs
25:07 How the combination of Mt. Gox repayments, Ethereum ETFs, and German and American government Bitcoin sales might affect crypto prices
27:32 The chances the SEC approves a spot Solana ETF
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Guest
Alex Thorn, head of research at Galaxy
Previous appearance on Unchained: How Much Money Will Flow Into Bitcoin ETFs? Here’s One Projection
Links
Mt. Gox.
Unchained: Crypto Market Sees $300 Million Liquidated as Bitcoin Briefly Drops Below $59,000
CoinDesk: Mt. Gox to Begin Repayments in July
Governments selling:
Unchained: US Government Sends $241 Million in Bitcoin to Coinbase: Arkham
Cointelegraph: German gov’t offloads 900 Bitcoin, 400 BTC sent to Coinbase and Kraken
Solana ETF
Reuters: Investment manager VanEck files to list first spot Solana ETF in US |

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45 min
June 25, 2024The SEC Ends Its Ethereum 2.0 Investigation, but Staking Isn't in the Clear - Ep. 665
Last week, Consensys revealed that the SEC had concluded an investigation into Ethereum 2.0, referring to when Ethereum transitioned from a proof-of-work consensus mechanism to a proof-of-stake one.
In this episode, Laura Brookover, senior counsel & head of litigation and investigations at Consensys, and Sam Enzer, partner at Cahill Gordon & Reindel, explore the implications of this decision on Ether’s status as a commodity versus a security, and why the SEC dropped the pursuit, including whether the shifting political winds played a role. For instance, how much of the decision was influenced by the ETH ETF approvals, Democrats crossing party lines to vote for FIT21 and the repeal of SAB 121, and/or SEC crypto enforcement chief David Hirsch’s resignation?
In this discussion, they also explained why the closure doesn’t necessarily mean that staking, or restaking, is safe from the SEC. Plus, what’s the impact of this closure on the other big crypto cases, such as Coinbase, Kraken, Uniswap, and Ripple?
Show highlights:
02:13 How Consensys managed to get the SEC to reveal that it had concluded its investigation into Ethereum 2.0, and the significance of that move
08:14 The SEC's possible reasoning behind investigating Ethereum after it had switched to proof of stake
15:19 How uncommon is it for the SEC to send a letter concluding an investigation like the one into Ethereum
18:45 Whether recent events around crypto as an election issue, the ETH ETF approvals, votes for FIT21 and the repeal of SAB121, and David Hirsch’s resignation, might be connected to the decision to close this investigation
29:03 Whether the Biden administration has shifted its stance on crypto and whether Gensler should remain as chair
33:24 How the SEC might still go after staking
37:18 Whether restaking, such as pioneered by EigenLayer, is safe from regulatory actions
39:13 Why the SEC might be pursuing different judgments in various jurisdictions for MetaMask and Coinbase Wallet
44:24 What crucial evidence from the closed Ethereum 2.0 investigation could strengthen Coinbase's defense in its ongoing lawsuit
47:58 Why the SEC's aggressive stance on various crypto enforcement actions seems to remain unchanged despite closing the Ethereum 2.0 investigation
52:13 Why Sam and Laura believe Solana should not be considered a security, despite the SEC naming it as such in various crypto cases
58:13 How the SEC’s argument about an “ecosystem” is nonsensical, according to Laura Brookover
01:00:31 What the implications of the closed investigation are for the cases of Kraken and Ripple
01:04:58 What Sam and Laura B. are watching out for in terms of regulation and ongoing legal cases
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Guests:
Laura Brookover, Senior Counsel & Head of Litigation and Investigations at Consensys
Previous appearance on Unchained: Consensys’s Lawsuit Against The SEC: Will It End Gensler's ‘Unlawful Power Grab’?
Sam Enzer, Partner at Cahill Gordon & Reindel
Previous appearances on Unchained:
The Real Reason Why the SEC Might Be Going After Ethereum
How 'a Criminal Choice' Got Sam Bankman-Fried a 25-Year Prison Sentence
Why the SEC’s Case Against Coinbase Is So Significant for Crypto
Why SBF’s Testimony So Far Has Likely Already Doomed Him
Another Bad Week for Sam Bankman-Fried in His Criminal Trial
Why These Lawyers Say It’s Over for SBF-But His Only Hail Mary Is to Testify
SBF Trial: How Sam Bankman-Fried’s Lawyers Might Try and Win His Case
SBF’s Lawyers Could Be Annoying the Judge How Might That Impact the Trial?
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1 hr 13 min
June 21, 2024LayerZero Fought the Sybils and Airdropped Its Token. Did the Team Win? - Ep. 664
LayerZero’s token claims went live on Thursday, and as with every recent airdrop, there was plenty of controversy.
In this episode, Bryan Pellegrino, cofounder and CEO of LayerZero Labs, joined to discuss their ambitious anti-Sybil campaign and the subsequent token distribution. He delved into the challenges of ensuring genuine user participation, the decision to offer a self-report option for Sybil attackers, and the complexities imposed by industrial-grade farmers. Bryan shared what he would have done differently and why a mandatory donation to Protocol Guild was imposed.
Also, are airdrops dead? How can the industry improve this not-so-effective distribution method?
Show highlights:
00:00 Intro
01:23 Why LayerZero launched an anti-Sybil campaign with its airdrop, and what challenges they faced in ensuring genuine user participation
04:51 Why LayerZero offered a self-report option for Sybil attackers, and how this strategy revealed both the complexities and the creativity within the crypto community
10:16 How the anti-Sybil campaign uncovered over a million fraudulent accounts
14:34 What Bryan would have done differently in their campaign
17:18 What alternative methods, such as KYC and proof-of-humanity protocols, LayerZero could have used for their anti-Sybil campaign
18:35How LayerZero navigated the cat-and-mouse game with industrial airdrop farmers
23:08 Why they decided to impose a donation to Protocol Guild to claim the ZRO token
32:07 What caused the dramatic drop in LayerZero's activity post-announcement of their anti-Sybil campaign, and why the team is optimistic despite the decline
35:23 LayerZero's plans for future airdrops
38:40 What Bryan thinks the future holds for airdrops in crypto, and how the current broken system can be improved to achieve better distribution and user engagement
42:43 Crypto News Recap
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Guest
Bryan Pellegrino, cofounder and CEO of LayerZero Labs

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57 min
June 19, 2024The Chopping Block: VC Tokens, Memecoins & Celebs, and Seasonal Patterns - Ep. 663
Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Robert Leshner, and Tarun Chitra explore the latest trends in the crypto world. In this episode, we dive into the impact of celebrity-endorsed memecoins, featuring discussions around Iggy Azalea's 'Mother' token, Waka Flocka Flame's 'Flocka' token, and other celebrities. We debate the broader implications of these phenomena on the crypto market, address criticisms of venture capital's role in crypto, and explore the seasonal nature of crypto trading. Tune in for an in-depth look at how pop culture intersects with cryptocurrency, shaping current market sentiment.

Show highlights
🔹 Seasonality in Crypto: Exploration of the historical seasonal trends in crypto markets and their implications.
🔹 Memecoins & Celebrities: Insightful discussion on the rise of celebrity-launched memecoins and their impact on the crypto world.
🔹 Market Cycles: Exploration of the different phases in market cycles and their effects on asset creation and liquidation.
🔹 VC Funding in Crypto: Examination of the role of venture capital in the crypto ecosystem and its impact on market dynamics.
🔹 VC vs. Liquid Funds: Debate on whether venture capital funds are beneficial or detrimental to the crypto markets.
🔹 Institutional and Retail Adoption: The importance of growing crypto usage among both institutions and retail investors.

Hosts
⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly
⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly
⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate
⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures

DisclosuresTimestamps
00:00 Intro
01:58 Market Sentiment
07:34 Celebrity Involvement in Crypto
16:00 Celebrity Coins vs Endorsements
25:24 Influencer Economy and Social Tokens
27:41 Legibility and Value of Memecoins
28:37 Crypto Influencers
31:07 VCs vs. Retail
36:50 Future of Crypto Markets
43:53 Institutional vs. Retail Adoption
50:45 Taking on Populist Takes

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53 min
June 19, 2024Bits + Bips: Iggy Azalea, $MOTHER, and Celeb Coins: Is This the Top of the Crypto Cycle? - Ep. 662
A few weeks after its launch, Iggy Azalea's MOTHER memecoin is still in the spotlight. Host Joe McCann, who recently had dinner with her in New York, gives the inside scoop on how Iggy’s $MOTHER came to be, plus her plans.
Also, Joe says Iggy is so bullish on Solana because it’s fast and cheap… but James Seyffart counters… nothing can be fast, cheap, and good. Except ETFs.
Guests Phil Bonello and Kelly Greer delve into the role of venture capital in crypto, and more particularly into dynamics between liquid hedge funds and massive token generation events. And James tells a mind-blowing story about how one ETF and obscure SEC rules could cause whiplash to the prices of Apple and Nvidia stock over the next few months.
Plus, after SEC head enforcer David Hirsch resigned from the SEC this week, everyone gave their takes on why. Is Hirsch going to BlackRock, or was he scared about a potential lawsuit?
Show highlights:
00:51 The real story behind Iggy Azalea's MOTHER memecoin and the controversy between Joe and Haseeb Qureshi
07:26 Why Iggy is bullish on Solana, and whether MOTHER is a hopeful case for crypto, reflecting the evolving relationship between entertainment and Web3
12:35 Whether the market has already topped, given the involvement of celebrities in the industry
15:32 Whether VCs are extractive to the overall space, and how liquid funds and token unlocks impact the performance of assets
21:17 Why venture funds and hedge funds have different approaches to liquid crypto investments, and how memecoins are changing the game for allocators
33:18 Why there’s a 0% chance that SOL gets an ETF this year
34:19 What the recent macro trends point to, whether inflation going down is sustainable, and whether rate cuts are coming
43:32 Why Nvidia's rapid growth is about to trigger a multi-billion dollar rebalance in tech ETFs, and how both $NVDA’s and $AAPL’s stock prices might soon seesaw
54:35 The theories about why the SEC’s chief crypto enforcer David Hirsch resigned from the agency (hint: it might have to do with the election)
59:52 Why James believes Ethereum ETFs will launch on July 2 and what amount of inflows the ETH ETFs might garner, esp. considering potential ETHE outflows
Hosts:
James Seyffart, Research Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence
Joe McCann, Founder, CEO, and CIO of Asymmetric
Guests:
Kelly Greer, Vice President of Trading at Galaxy
Philip Bonello, Founding Partner at Plaintext Capital

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1 hr 11 min
June 18, 2024Anthony Scaramucci on Why He Supports Biden and Thinks He, Not Trump, Is Best for Crypto - Ep. 661
The political landscape in the US is heating up with the November elections, and the crypto industry is watching closely.
In this episode, Anthony Scaramucci, founder of SkyBridge, doesn’t mince words and explains why he believes Joe Biden is the best choice—even for the crypto voter—in the upcoming election, the significance of the Ethereum ETF approval, and how the industry has overcome significant regulatory hurdles.
Scaramucci also shares his insights on the future of Bitcoin ETFs, the role of younger generations in driving crypto policy, and why Solana might be the next big thing.
Show highlights:
02:05 Why Anthony believes there’s only one choice in this election: Joe Biden
07:03 Why he thinks the crypto industry “has already won”
16:27 Whether the crypto industry should trust Trump with his pro-crypto comments
17:20 Why Anthony is convinced that the Biden administration has stopped its anti-crypto stance, even with the veto of the SAB 121 repeal
21:26 Why Anthony believes crypto is becoming a bipartisan issue, and how younger generations are driving this change in Washington
28:05 What three key elements would ideally be included in crypto legislation to ensure clarity and industry involvement in regulation
30:49 What happened to SkyBridge after selling a stake to FTX, and how they are riding the industry's “upswing”
38:00 What developments in Bitcoin ETFs could signal its recognition as an asset class and drive institutional adoption
40:00 What led SkyBridge to abandon its Bitcoin ETF application
43:23 What Anthony thinks is the best pitch for a spot Ether ETF to TradFi, and how expected inflows compare to Bitcoin ETFs
49:11 Anthony’s praise of Laura’s book
51:55 Why Anthony believes a Solana ETF might be the next big thing in crypto, despite SEC scrutiny and the need for a futures market first
55:20 Why SkyBridge is actively seeking new acquisitions and partnering with Parcl, a Solana-based decentralized real estate trading app
59:44 What Anthony's bullish predictions for Bitcoin and Ethereum are in the current cycle
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Guest:
Anthony Scaramucci, Founder and Managing Partner at SkyBridgeLinks
Recent coverage of Unchained on the political scenario in the US:
How the U.S. Government Can Protect the Dollar Through Stablecoins
Why Many Democrats, Including the White House, Have Come Around on Crypto
Senator Cynthia Lummis on Why Crypto Now Has Bipartisan Support in Congress

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1 hr 6 min
June 14, 2024 The Chopping Block: Iggy Azalea, Hamster Kombat, & Airdrop Insights - Ep. 660
Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Robert Leshner, and Tarun Chitra explore the latest trends in the crypto world. In this episode, we dive into the impact of celebrity-endorsed memecoins, featuring Iggy Azalea's new coin 'Mother' and Andrew Tate's 'Daddy.' We discuss how these phenomena influence the broader crypto market, recent trends in airdrops, and the challenge of Sybil resistance. Additionally, we explore the permissionless nature of crypto and the trade-offs involved in fun and chaotic projects, including the explosive rise of 'Hamster Kombat.' Tune in for an in-depth look at how pop culture intersects with the core principles of cryptocurrency, shaping current market sentiment.
Show highlights
🔹 Crypto Market Sentiment: Discussion on the latest market trends and how inflation numbers are impacting the community.
🔹 Memecoins & Celebrities: Analysis of Iggy Azalea's $Mother and the phenomenon of celebrity-launched memecoins.
🔹 Emerging Memecoins: Insights into new memecoins, including issues with fake and hacked accounts.
🔹 Tap-to-Earn Games: Overview of the rapid growth of simple click-based games like Hamster Kombat.
🔹 Airdrop Controversies: Exploration of recent controversies, particularly involving zkSync and LayerZero, and challenges of Sybil attacks.
🔹 Future Airdrop Strategies: Discussion on the evolution and need for clear, ungameable metrics.
Hosts
⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly
⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly
⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate
⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures

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1 hr 5 min
June 14, 2024Are Memecoins the Next Evolution of Wall Street Bets? - Ep. 659
Nathaniel Popper just published his latest book, "The Trolls of Wall Street," covering the Wall Street Bets phenomenon. Funnily enough, his book comes at a time when there are striking similarities with the current memecoin mania in crypto.
In this episode, Popper explores the rise of online investing communities like Wall Street Bets and their reflection of broader societal changes, particularly among young men.
He also touches on the parallels between the trolling culture of these communities and the rise of figures like Donald Trump, and delves into the hidden dangers and psychological influences of memes in modern investing.
Show highlights:
01:21 The rise of online money communities and the shift towards investing based on ideas rather than traditional financial fundamentals
04:06 How the changing roles of young men in society have influenced the growth of crypto and online financial communities
13:36 How Robinhood's design choices changed retail investing, sparking FOMO and controversy by making trading as easy as a swipe
18:04 The hidden dangers of memes in modern investing, and how they balance fostering community with driving speculation
22:56 Why Trump's ties to the crypto community highlight the mix of serious intent and trolling
30:07 Crypto News Recap
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Guest
Nathaniel Popper, author of The Trolls of Wall Street
Links
Previous coverage of Unchained on memecoins:
Unchained: Why Memecoins Have Been 2024's Most Profitable Crypto Trade: Ansem and Kelxyz - Ep. 641
BRETT Becomes First Memecoin on Base to Reach $1 Billion in Market Cap
DWF Labs to Invest in Memecoins, Onchain Data Reveals LADYS Transactions
Celebrity Tokens Continue to Bleed With Some Memecoin Traders Losing Six-Figures
The book:
Blockworks: What do memecoins and meme stocks have in common?: A review of ‘The Trolls of Wall Street’
Fortune: Q&A with the author of ‘The Trolls of Wall Street’: Gambling, conspiracies, and the return of Roaring Kitty,
Meme culture
WSJ:
Meme Stocks Are Back, but Fund Investors Moved On
Meet the ‘Degen’ Traders Fueling the Latest Meme-Stock Mania
CoinDesk: In Defense of Meme Coins
What else could memecoins be? By Vitalik Buterin

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