Tim Flannery, palaeontologist, evolutionary historian and author, joins Amy to discuss his latest book,Europe: A Natural History. Tamara Wood, Affiliate at theKaldor Centre for International Refugee Law,UNSW and Lecturer in Law at the University of Tasmania talks about the international and domestic law that Australia must follow when it comes to those seeking asylum in our country, both by air and by boat. Plus Ben Eltham on the latest in federal politics.