Amy spoke with University of Wrzburg Professor Emeritus Jrgen Tautz on his bookThe Honey Factory: Inside the Ingenious World of Bees. Melbourne University History Professor and Australian Academy of the Humanities President Joy Damousi talked about the federal governments vetoing of 11 ARC humanities research grants and the intrinsic value of the humanities to society. Plus New Matildas National Affairs Correspondent Ben Eltham on the latest in federal politics.