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Understanding and Managing Technical Debt: Insights from John Helm


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In this episode of "How Many CTOs Does It Take?" podcast, hosts Scott Porad and Brad Hefta-Gaub welcome guest John Helm to discuss the complexities and ramifications of technical debt within software projects. The conversation explores various analogies, including financial bonds and naked calls, to explain the impact of technical debt on project timelines and functionality. John offers insights on measuring technical debt, its human aspects, and strategies for managing complexity in software systems. The episode highlights the importance of defining technical debt, communicating its impact to business stakeholders, and finding a balance in software development to avoid costly delays and incomplete features.

  • 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome
  • 02:06 Defining Tech Debt
  • 04:50 The Human Element in Tech Debt
  • 07:28 Financial Analogies and Tech Debt
  • 21:42 Complexity and Dependencies
  • 29:54 The Challenge of Refactoring Complexity
  • 31:12 Defining and Addressing Technical Debt
  • 33:44 The Risks of Over-Decoupling
  • 37:55 Considering Technical Bankruptcy
  • 43:16 Balancing Technical Debt and Developer Satisfaction
  • 51:11 Exploring Technical Debt Metrics
  • 53:19 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Resources:

  • How Many CTOs Pod: https://howmanyctospod.com
  • Scott Porad: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottporad/
  • Brad Hefta-Gaub: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradheftagaub/
  • John Helm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnlhelm/
  • SPACE Developer Productivity: https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/3454122.3454124
  • OMG Automated Technical Debt Measure: https://www.omg.org/spec/ATDM/1.0/About-ATDM

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How Many CTOsBy Brad Hefta-Gaub & Scott Porad