The Kook is back from Kentucky and seeing this girlfriend / practicing with his militia? Within seconds they’re arguing whether MAGA hats are hate symbols. The Contrarian points to anti-immigration bullying under Trump and this leads to a discussion of whether non-citizens are voting and swinging the elections for Democrats. The Kook thinks so. The Contrarian thinks it’s hard enough to get anyone to vote, much less people who risk prison to vote. This gives way to an argument over how effective DOGE is. The podcast concludes with the Kook providing therapy for the Contrarian who can’t seem to completely move on from his breakup last year.