Addiction adds an additional level of complexity to separation and divorce. On today's episode of UnDoing We, Mardi Winder talks with Amber Hollingsworth, a master addiction counselor and founder of Hope for Families Recovery Center. Together, they explore how addiction affects marriages, co-parenting dynamics, and personal well-being after divorce, particularly when one partner is struggling with substance use. Amber shares her own background, coming from a family surrounded by addiction, and offers insight into how those patterns often remain invisible until viewed from the outside.

The discussion highlights the heavy toll addiction takes on relationships, especially for the non-addicted partner who often ends up feeling overwhelmed and unfairly seen as the “bad guy.” Amber points out that this role can become emotionally exhausting and can change a person’s sense of self, leading to what she calls “guiltzentiment”,a blend of guilt and resentment that is difficult to shake. Mardi and Amber talk candidly about the importance of self-care and resilience, acknowledging how the partner of an addicted person can become consumed by the situation, sometimes to the point of feeling addicted to the crisis itself.

Amber Hollingsworth offers practical advice for managing these emotions and stresses the value of setting healthy boundaries, especially in households with children. About the Host Mardi Winder is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions.

She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. 

Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.com

About the Guest Amber Hollingsworth is a master addiction counselor, founder of Hope For Families Recovery Center, and creator of the YouTube channel Put The Shovel Down. With over two decades of experience, she’s helped thousands of families navigate addiction recovery using innovative, relationship-focused strategies like the Invisible Intervention. Known for her relatable, no-nonsense approach, Amber empowers families to outsmart addiction, set healthy boundaries, and rebuild trust. Her expertise and compassionate style make her a sought-after podcast guest, offering practical advice and hope to families facing the challenges of addiction.

For Amber’s gift: https://www.familyrecoveryacademy.online/understanding-boundaries-in-addiction 

To connect with Amber: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/addictionrecoveryhope Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amber-hollingsworth-833111b8/

Today on UnDoing We, host Mardi Winder chats with Gina Phillips, a certified divorce financial analyst (CDFA®), to talk honestly about what happens with your finances once your divorce papers are signed. Many people expect relief after the decree is final, but as Mardi and Gina point out, there’s a whole new set of important tasks to tackle, and ignoring them can cause major headaches down the road. Gina shares her straightforward advice on everything from sorting out your mortgage and making sure your name is actually on your house, to why it’s so important to stay on top of things like updating beneficiaries and filing those critical retirement plan documents. She dives into some common mistakes people make, like assuming their insurance will just work itself out or not realizing how fast deadlines for things like health coverage or financial transfers can sneak up on you. Their conversation is packed with tips for getting a handle on your money, setting up your new financial life, and not getting caught off guard by surprise bills or legal mishaps. Gina shares a Post Divorce Financial Checklist that’s available for listeners, designed to make this rocky transition period a little smoother. If you’re worried about missing something important after your divorce, this episode is full of reassurance, smart ideas, and reminders that you really can take control of your future while building your financial confidence. About the Host Mardi Winder is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.com About the Guest Gina Phillips is the owner of WNY Divorce Financial Advisors, LLC, where she passionately dedicates herself to empowering individuals navigating marital transitions to regain control over their financial well-being. As a skilled liaison between clients and divorce mediators and attorneys, Gina is driven by personal experience and a deep understanding of the challenges that accompany divorce. Her pursuit of certification as a Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA®) demonstrates her commitment to providing comprehensive support. With over 30 years of experience in auditing and accounting fields, Gina brings a wealth of knowledge to her practice. Her certification as a CDFA® combined with her expertise enables her to offer compassionate and cost-effective assistance. Whether you are in the early stages of considering a divorce or currently navigating the complexities of the legal proceedings, Gina will guide you with empathy and expertise to ensure your transition is as smooth and financially secure as possible. For Gina’s gift, the Post-Divorce Financial Checklist: https://6214433.hs-sites.com/post-divorce To connect with Gina: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gina-phillips/ Website: https://www.wnydivorcefinancial.com/default.php Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wnydivorcefinancial

Today on UnDoing We, host Mardi Winder sits down with Estefana Johnson, a seasoned mental health clinician with over 20 years of experience working in trauma and mental health care. In this conversation, Estefana Johnson shares her journey from an unexpected start in behavioral health to becoming the Director of Clinical Training at Arise Alliance Institute, where she explores innovative and holistic approaches to healing. Together, they dive deep into the complex relationship between trauma and loss, exploring how unresolved experiences can shape our lives and even echo across generations through something called "generational data." Estefana Johnson breaks down the science behind how our brains hold onto past events, why trauma isn’t just about what happens to us but how we process it, and introduces listeners to the principles of Critical Memory Integration (CMI), a powerful method for internal healing and self-discovery. If you’ve ever wondered how trauma can linger, why we may feel stuck in old patterns, or how to start looking within for answers and real freedom, this episode is a must-listen. Get ready for practical insights, real talk about healing, and a hopeful message about the power we each hold to transform our lives. About the Host Mardi Winder is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.com About the Guest Estefana Johnson, LCSW, brings over 20 years of experience in trauma and mental health care. She began her career as a Behavioral Health Technician in 2001 and later taught in Japan before moving into roles in residential treatment, medical social work, and clinical leadership. As Director of Clinical Training at ARISE Alliance Institute, she develops and delivers curricula in trauma-focused care and interventions like Critical Memory Integration (CMI™), while also practicing clinically at Lighthouse Psychiatry & TMS in Gilbert, Arizona. Estefana is actively involved in research on therapeutic uses of psychedelics and is passionate about advancing innovative, healing-centered approaches. A first-generation child of immigrants, she is committed to supporting foster and adoptive youth, leading programs that provide education and care rooted in resilience and recovery. To connect with Estefana: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/estefanajohnsonlcsw/

Welcome to another episode of UnDoing We. Today, host Mardi Winder sits down with Maria Natapov, a step parenting expert and trusted adviser to those struggling with blending families in relationships post-divorce. In this conversation, Mardi and Maria dive deep into the complexities and real-life challenges of blending families after divorce, a topic that touches every parent, child, and stepparent involved. Whether you’re moving into a new relationship, blending households, or simply wanting the very best for your kids after divorce, this episode is packed with relatable stories, actionable guidance, and gentle reminders to keep self-care and empathy at the heart of your next steps.

Tune in for an honest, compassionate look at what it really takes to redefine family and heal together. 

About the Host Mardi Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. 

Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.com

About the Guest Maria Natapov is a Stepparenting Expert and Trusted Advisor to Divorce Professionals, Financial Advisors, and Parenting Coaches. Maria offers a caring and playful coaching approach, empowering clients to blend their families with joy and confidence. As a daughter of divorced immigrant parents and a stepparent herself, she understands the unique communication challenges in blended families and the importance of innovative support systems. Using her signature 4-step energy-focused process and Rapid Resolution Therapy, Maria helps stepparents and divorced parents transition from chaos to harmony. She strengthens caregivers’ values, fosters partner alignment, and builds trust with stepchildren.

Maria has supported numerous families through her VIP Stepparenting Breakthrough model and her podcast, Synergistic Stepparenting. Learn more at SynergisticStepparenting.com. 

For Maria’s gift: Family Fusion: 6 Steps to Collaborative Co-Parenting https://SynergisticStepparenting.com/subscribe To connect with Maria : Website: https://SynergisticStepparenting.com

In today’s conversation, host Mardi Winder sits down with seasoned real estate expert Kat Timpson to tackle one of the most complex and emotional aspects of divorce: what happens to the family home. As the real estate market evolves, think fewer homes, fiercer competition, and offers well over asking price, Kat Timpson shares timely insights on navigating these shifts, especially when coupled with the added pressures of divorce.

Together, Mardi and Kat break down the importance of having specialized guidance when dividing assets, avoiding common financial pitfalls, and why having the right team matters more than ever. Whether you’re wondering about refinancing, title concerns, or simply how to protect your financial future in a contentious split, this episode is packed with actionable advice and real-world scenarios. So whether you’re already in the midst of a transition or just preparing for what comes next, join us as we redefine how to make empowered decisions about your home and beyond during divorce. 

About the Host Mardi Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. 

Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.com

About the Guest Kat Timpson is a Realtor® with Coldwell Banker Realty in New Jersey. A seasoned communicator with over 20 years of experience in media, public relations, corporate communications, community relations, and public speaking, Kat specializes in divorce real estate to help separating home and property owners figure out next steps for living spaces. Kat bases her work on her own experience as a buyer and seller many times over as well as a divorcing homeowner. Kat has been recruited to be one of the head coaches for her Brokers’ pilot coaching program and is training to become a top female public speaker.

To connect with Kat: https://kattimpsonre.com/

💖 Dating After Divorce — Join Guest Rosalind Sedacca, CDC, Divorce, Dating & Empowered Living Show Host, Divorce & Co-Parenting Coach, and Author, together with Host Mardi Adams, Divorce Coach, on UnDoing We. This insightful conversation explores how to re-enter the dating world with confidence, clarity, and emotional readiness after divorce. Learn how to heal, set healthy boundaries, and build meaningful relationships while honoring your personal growth and life transitions.

Streamed on www.NEWStreamingNetwork.com.

About the Host Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. 

Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.com More about Rosalind: Rosalind Sedacca, CDC is recognized as The Voice of Child-Centered Divorce. She is a Divorce & Co-Parenting Coach and founder of the Child-Centered Divorce Network which provides advice, programs, coaching and other valuable resources for parents who are facing, moving through or transitioning after a divorce. 

She is the author of How Do I Tell the Kids About The Divorce? an internationally acclaimed ebook designed to help parents get through the tough divorce talk with the best possible outcome for themselves and their children. Rosalind has created several ebooks and e-courses on co-parenting success strategies including an 8-hr Anger Management For Co-Parents Course. She also hosts the Divorce, Dating & Empowered Living Radio Show & Podcast.

Learn more about Rosalind’s services at www.childcentereddivorce.com - Email [email protected]

This is an important episode of UnDoing We for women and men who are going through a “grey divorce”. Mardi Winder sits down with retirement expert Marcia Mantel, founder of Mantel Retirement Consulting, for an illuminating and practical conversation about one of the most critical, and often confusing, topics for people facing divorce: getting your financial affairs in order, with a special focus on what you can expect from Social Security. Marcia shares how she fell into the world of retirement planning and uncovers the surprising gaps in financial literacy that affect women and men alike.

Together, Mardi and Marcia break down the essentials of Social Security—how benefits are calculated, the impact of years spent as a stay-at-home parent, and the often misunderstood rules around claiming benefits on an ex-spouse’s work history. They shed light on "spousal top ups," eligibility hurdles, common misconceptions, and address current worries about the future of Social Security, while offering reassurance based on historical precedents. If you’re feeling lost when it comes to planning for retirement after divorce, or simply want straight talk about Social Security, this episode is packed with practical insights and empowering advice for moving forward with confidence. Stay tuned for golden nuggets that every woman (and man!) should know when navigating financial independence and security beyond divorce.

 About the Host Mardi Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions.

She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.com About the Guest Marcia Mantell is the founder of her own small business, Mantell Retirement Consulting, which is celebrating 20 years this year. Marcia is known for taking the complicated retirement,

Social Security, and Medicare rules and translating them into language we can all better understand. And she’s the author of 4 retirement books, a long-time blogger, a media columnist, and a podcast guest. Whether writing about or talking about retirement, she takes the opportunity to share as many helpful tips and tricks as possible. It’s all about making a successful transition into retirement. 

To connect with Marcia and access her complimentary resources: https://boomerretirementbriefs.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marciamantell/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/search/top?q=boomer%20retirement%20briefs

In this episode, Mardi Winder sits down with Dr. Becky Whetstone for an honest and down-to-earth chat about what really happens when a marriage is on the rocks. Dr. Becky Whetstone, who’s open about her own history of four marriages, shares her personal story, full of ups, downs, and real-life lessons. She explains how her own tough experiences pushed her to become a therapist dedicated to helping others through the messier moments of relationships and divorce.

They talk about that crucial moment when someone in a marriage makes the call to stay or go, and how those first reactions can set the tone for everything that follows. Dr. Becky offers practical advice on how to figure out whether your marriage still has a chance, and she’s clear about the situations, like abuse or infidelity, when it’s time to walk away for good. 

The conversation covers what happens emotionally when divorce starts looming, and the ways people can get stuck in “divorce fantasy” thinking. Throughout, both Mardi and Dr. Becky stress how important it is not to rush, but instead to make thoughtful decisions, especially for families with kids. Listeners get plenty of straightforward, compassionate tips for handling everything from those tricky first conversations to staying calm in the chaos. It’s a genuine look at the realities of divorce, filled with hope that even hard endings can be managed with care, honesty, and respect. 

More about Mardi: Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, with experience as a domestic violence client advocate and behavioral consultant for schools. She is a credentialed mediator with over 30 years of experience in helping people navigate conflict, manage the challenges of divorce, and focus on creating positive transitions, even at very stressful times in life. Mardi is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. She speaks internationally on conflict resolution, divorce, communication, and developing emotional intelligence and resilience. 

Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: https://www.divorcecoach4women.com/

About the Guest Becky Whetstone, PhD, is a Marriage and Family Therapist and Life Coach specializing in marriage crisis counseling. Based in Arkansas, she developed Managed Separation (MS), an intervention guiding separated couples with purpose and timelines. Inspired by her own marriage crisis, Dr. Whetstone created tools to help couples navigate turmoil. A former journalist, she has authored the book, “I (Think) I Want Out”, aiming to reduce marital chaos and foster healthy relationships.

 To connect with Dr. Becky: Website: https://marriagecrisismanager.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/relationshipcrisismanager/ X: https://x.com/DoctorBecky

Today, Mardi Winder welcomes forensic accountant Tracy Coenen, who has spent more than 25 years investigating financial fraud and uncovering the secrets hidden in divorce finances. Tracy brings her wealth of experience to the table, sharing why what you don’t know about the money in your marriage can absolutely hurt you during divorce, and how you can take proactive steps to protect yourself. If you’re feeling overwhelmed by the thought of navigating joint accounts, credit cards, or potential “money shenanigans,” you’re not alone. Tracy explains how financial confusion is common and nothing to be ashamed of, especially if you weren’t the one managing the money in your relationship.

She breaks down her practical approach to taking charge with her Divorce Money Guide, designed to put powerful tools and knowledge into the hands of everyday people, no advanced math skills required. Together, Tracy and Mardi dig into the common tactics used to hide assets, how to recognize signs of secret accounts, and what documents you need to gather when divorce is on the horizon. They touch on important topics like home equity lines of credit, early withdrawals from retirement accounts, and even cryptocurrency, debunking myths and sharing how to spot clues in financial records. If you suspect money is being hidden or moved, or you’re just trying to get your financial bearings, you’ll find step-by-step guidance and a reassuring message: you can take control and secure your future. 

Plus, Tracy Coenen shares resources, including free tools and online courses, to help you get started, and offers advice on when it makes sense to invest in a forensic accountant or handle things yourself. 

About the Guest Tracy Coenen has been investigating fraud for more than 25 years, but she didn’t always want to be a forensic accountant. With a dream of one day being a prison warden, Tracy went to Marquette University in Milwaukee, WI to get a criminology degree. A class on financial crime investigations reminded her how much she loved Encyclopedia Brown books as a kid. She continued her criminology degree, but added accounting and economics courses so she could become a CPA… and here Tracy is, finding money in cases of corporate fraud, high net worth divorce, and other financial shenanigans. 

For Tracy’s complimentary resource: https://divorcemoneyguide.com/plan/ 

To connect with Tracy: https://www.divorcemoneyguide.com

Welcome to another episode of UnDoing We. Today, we're diving into the world of highly sensitive people, and what it really means, why it isn't a diagnosis, and how it shapes the experience of divorce and relationships of all kinds. Joining host Mardi Winder is special guest Sue Bruckner, who specializes in supporting highly sensitive individuals through life’s most challenging transitions.

In this thought-provoking conversation, Sue Bruckner explains how being highly sensitive is a biological trait, not a weakness, and breaks down the key characteristics using the acronym DOES: Deeply feeling, Overstimulation/Overwhelm, Emotional responsiveness, and Sensitivity to subtleties. 

The episode explores how these traits influence empathy and boundaries, both in personal relationships and the workplace, and why learning self-compassion is essential for thriving as a highly sensitive person. Together, Mardi and Sue discuss practical strategies for creating healthy boundaries, embracing self-love, and rewriting the narrative for sensitive individuals navigating divorce, career challenges, and life as a whole.

Whether you identify as highly sensitive or are seeking to better understand someone who does, this episode is packed with insight, encouragement, and helpful advice to empower you on your journey.

About the Guest: Sue Bruckner, a Licensed Professional Counselor turned Holistic Relationship Coach, is the founder of With Intention, a transformative personal development company created specifically for sensitive women who experience life deeply and often find their depth undervalued in relationships.

After walking through the fire of an unhealthy marriage, navigating a challenging divorce, and facing unexpected widowhood, Sue transformed these profound experiences into her life's calling. Sue's signature program, Tribe Rising, is an intimate online sanctuary where sensitive women navigating relationship transitions find not just healing but also profound transformation and authentic sisterhood. 

This unique membership platform operates at the community, group, and individual levels, meeting women exactly where they are on their journey. Through a powerful blend of growth mindset principles, spiritual awareness, and positive psychology, Sue guides women to transform emotional chaos into the intentional creation of their next chapter—where relationship endings become the most profound beginnings they could imagine. 

For Sue’s gift Core Value Inventory: https://wonderful-dawn-34642.myflodesk.com/et5zo892qv

To connect with Sue: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/suebruckner/ Community: https://wonderful-dawn-34642.myflodesk.com/i4jpplh08t