We open with the news out of Comic-Con: reactions to the Avengers: Doomsday trailer (including Dr. Doom's accent, Robert Downey Jr.'s reported paycheck, and the returning X-Men lineup), followed by new casting reveals for Ghost Rider and Black Panther, plus some Blade and Midnight Sons speculation.
Then Abhishek gives Daniel — and you — a full rundown of Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey: the sound design and dialogue-clarity fixes Nolan built for this one, the Cyclops sequence, Athena's role in the story, the Trojan Horse flashback, the "Zeus's Law" theme running through the film, Scylla and Charybdis, and where the film's approach to controversial casting choices (Helen of Troy, Elliot Page's role) actually lands versus the online discourse around it. Wraps with a disappointment rating and a companion recommendation for anyone who wants more after this one.
Companion Episode
This episode was released alongside our coverage of Spider-Man: Brand New Day (Episode 13). Jon Bernthal appears in both (Menelaus here, Punisher there), and Tom Holland and Zendaya both appear in both films as well — worth checking out if you haven't already.
Timestamps
- 00:00 — Cold open / Comic-Con news segment begins (Emmy nominations, Avengers: Doomsday trailer reactions)
- 16:36 — Comic-Con casting news: new Black Panther, Ghost Rider
- 29:03 — Comic-Con news wraps, transition into The Odyssey
- 29:05 — The Odyssey intro / cast overview
- 33:51 — On sound design and Nolan's dialogue-clarity fixes
- 39:47 — The Cyclops sequence
- 44:20 — Athena (Zendaya), family dynamics, Circe
- 54:19 — Menelaus (Jon Bernthal) / Helen of Troy backstory
- 1:00:35 — The Trojan Horse sequence
- 1:08:38 — "Zeus's Law" (Xenia) thematic discussion
- 1:18:28 — Scylla and Charybdis / the sirens
- 1:41:33 — Casting discourse (Helen of Troy, Elliot Page/Achilles rumor)
- 1:47:25 — Final verdict / disappointment rating
- 1:52:24 — Companion recommendation: The Return (2024)
- End — Outro (companion note on Spider-Man: Brand New Day episode releasing same week)
Blade reboot — status update since recording:As discussed in the episode, Marvel's long-in-development Blade reboot (Mahershala Ali) had been sitting in limbo for years. Since this episode was recorded, the project has been officially confirmed cancelled, rather than simply delayed. The Midnight Sons / Ghost Rider crossover speculation discussed in the episode remains active rumor, independent of Blade's cancellation.
Halle Berry / Storm — clarification:In the episode we characterized Halle Berry as having ruled out ever returning as Storm. More precisely: Berry has confirmed she is not appearing in Avengers: Doomsday specifically, but has said she'd be open to returning as Storm in a future film. Not a permanent departure — just sitting this one out.
Casting Reveals Referenced
- Ghost Rider — Ryan Gosling (as Johnny Blaze, standalone film directed by Shawn Levy): https://youtu.be/GxmrNuHerEw?t=240&si=m7gLoZk7dH_Cb9d6
- Black Panther — David Jonsson (T'Challa II, Black Panther 3, directed by Ryan Coogler): https://youtu.be/GxmrNuHerEw?t=1564&si=j4l2wMeIVu53adsQ