What if a simple procedure could transform your community's future of animal welfare?

On this episode of United We Spay, Vicki Deisner from Ohio Animal Advocates and community cat management expert Dan Spehar address this question through the lens of affordable spay-neuter services. Their conversation with Stacy underscores these initiatives' critical role in managing overpopulation and fostering collaboration between citizens and local governments. Dan offers compelling insights into the humane effectiveness of trap-neuter-return (TNR) programs, highlighting the Together Initiative for Ohio's Community Cats as a successful model for stakeholder empowerment and local action.

Explore the robust and impactful efforts of Ohio Animal Advocates in partnership with the United Spay Alliance as Vicki sheds light on the challenges and solutions in statewide animal welfare. From the complexities of reporting animal cruelty to the vital need for accessible spay-neuter services for larger breeds, the conversation examines real-world solutions, like Cheri Storms' program in Indiana and the AlterClinic led by Laura Groves in Ohio. These initiatives exemplify successful tri-state collaboration and expansion of veterinary capacity across Ohio, Indiana, and Kentucky during challenging times.

Hear stories of community empowerment and creative problem-solving, showcasing how individuals driven by passion can make a significant impact, even without prior experience or a substantial budget. Highlighting projects like Sunday spay-neuter clinics in Massachusetts and Riggi Rescue's efforts in New London, Ohio, we discuss practical strategies and resources available for those eager to start similar initiatives.

With tools like the Ohio Spay-Neuter Connection page, community members are equipped to manage local cat populations sustainably and compassionately, demonstrating that change is possible with the right approach and resources.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Exploration of affordable spay-neuter services' role in tackling animal overpopulation, with insights from Vicki Deisner and Dan Spehar
• The humane trap-neuter-return (TNR) method for managing community cats and its importance
• Ohio Animal Advocates' partnership with the United States Alliance and their statewide initiatives during the pandemic
• Success stories from for-profit spay-neuter clinics and community events showcasing innovative solutions for rural areas
• The Together Initiative for Ohio's Community Cats and its impact on local animal welfare efforts
• Collaborative efforts across Ohio, Indiana, and Kentucky, focusing on expanding veterinary capacity and community partnerships
• Case studies of successful community cat management programs, including Riggi Rescue and AlterClinic's mass trapping events

Resources from this Episode

Feline Fix by Five: www.unitedspayalliance.org/feline-fix-by-five

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Is there a humane way to tackle the daunting issue of animal overpopulation?

On this episode of United We Spay, renowned veterinarian Dr. Jeff Young believes there is and is on a mission to prove it. Dr. Young reveals how his experiences in vet school ignited a lifelong commitment to high-volume, low-cost spay-neuter services, leading to the creation of Planned Pethood Plus and its international arm. His inspiring journey is filled with pivotal moments that underscore the transformative power of early-age neutering and mobile vet services. Discover how his dedication has not only trained veterinarians worldwide but has also profoundly impacted reducing animal suffering on a global scale.

We delve into the intricate challenges of pet overpopulation and the barriers that prevent effective solutions. Economic hurdles, particularly in low-income and rural communities, underscore the pressing need for accessible veterinary care. Dr. Young doesn't shy away from discussing the emotional toll of economic euthanasia on veterinarians and the responsibility of major nonprofits to address financial constraints.

But it's not just veterinarians leading the charge. Non-veterinarians and community activists play a crucial role in advancing spay-neuter advocacy. Through successful collaborations, they spotlight the necessity of spay-neuter efforts as the foundation for systemic change, aiming to support pet owners and veterinary professionals in this vital mission.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Dr. Jeff Young's journey from veterinary student to global spay-neuter advocate
• Establishment of Planned Pethood Plus and Planned Pethood International to address pet overpopulation
• Challenges in pet overpopulation, including financial and societal barriers
• Role of non-veterinarians and community activists in spay-neuter advocacy
• Collaboration between veterinarians and activists to implement mobile clinics and TNR programs
• Economic and emotional challenges veterinarians face due to rising costs and economic euthanasia
• Importance of prioritizing spay-neuter efforts for systemic change in animal welfare

Resources from this Episode

• Feline Fix by Five: www.unitedspayalliance.org/feline-fix-by-five

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Affordable spay-neuter services are the unsung heroes in the battle against feline overpopulation.

On this episode of United We Spay, Stacy welcomes Dr. Gay Senk, a feral cat surgeon from the Farmingdale Dog and Cat Clinic, who shares her extraordinary journey from equine practice to becoming a fervent advocate for spay-neuter initiatives. Dr. Senk recounts her awakening to the feral cat crisis, her self-driven education through scientific research and TNR resources, and her impactful work with Last Hope Inc. She delves into founding the Long Island Cat Project and promoting TNR programs within Nassau County municipal shelters, highlighting her commitment to mentoring the next generation of veterinary professionals.

We also tackle a pressing issue: the urgent need for affordable spay-neuter services to address cat overpopulation. Hear the challenges Dr. Senk faces, including resistance from traditional veterinary practices and the long waiting lists at affordable clinics. Learn about innovative solutions like a centralized booking system for veterinary appointments and the work of organizations such as the United Spay Alliance in pushing for high-volume, high-quality spay-neuter techniques.

Dr. Senk’s story is a testament to the power of education and collaboration in creating a compassionate world for all animals.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Dr. Gay Senk's transition from equine practice to feline spay-neuter advocacy
• Founding of the Long Island Cat Project and promotion of TNR practices
• Challenges and resistance from traditional veterinary practices towards low-cost services
• The importance of affordable spay-neuter services in reducing feline overpopulation
• Educating municipal leaders and communities on humane solutions like TNR
• The role of United Spay Alliance in promoting high-volume, high-quality spay-neuter techniques
• Dr. Senk's mentorship and the broader impact of collaborative efforts in the veterinary community

Resources from this Episode

• Feline Fix by Five: www.unitedspayalliance.org/feline-fix-by-five

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Unlock the secrets to overcoming the veterinary workforce shortage with insights from Stacy’s expert guest, Stacy Pursell, founder and CEO of the Vet Recruiter.

In this episode of United We Spay, we address the growing demand for veterinarians and the factors contributing to stress and burnout among current staff. Stacy shares her wealth of knowledge on the strategic, talent-centric solutions needed to secure the future of veterinary care.

Discover innovative strategies employers are using to attract and retain veterinarians, especially in underserved areas. From student loan repayment programs to enticing relocation packages and signing bonuses, learn how these tools are becoming essential in today's competitive market. We also delve into the changing dynamics of hiring, emphasizing the importance of being flexible, urgent, and agile and how a robust employer brand can make all the difference.

Get practical advice on effective employee retention strategies that begin the moment a candidate accepts an offer. Stacy Pursell discusses the power of exceptional onboarding experiences in mitigating early departures and the significance of maintaining strong communication. We also explore what it takes to become an employer of choice, from creating a positive workplace culture to offering competitive compensation.

This episode is brimming with insights to help you navigate the challenges of recruiting and retaining top veterinary talent.

In this episode, you will hear:

• The pressing shortage of veterinarians, projected job openings, and factors contributing to stress and burnout among current staff
• Innovative employer tactics, including student loan repayment programs, relocation packages, and signing bonuses, particularly in underserved areas
• The importance of being flexible, urgent, and agile in hiring processes
• Building a strong employer brand to attract top candidates
• Effective retention strategies, starting from onboarding, addressing counteroffers, and maintaining strong communication to mitigate early departures
• Creating a positive workplace culture and offering competitive compensation to become an employer of choice
• The role of tangible rewards, stress reduction, and competitive pay in boosting employee loyalty and retention
• Specific strategies for hiring veterinarians in nonprofit settings, emphasizing mission alignment and understanding the implications of frequent job changes

Resources from this Episode

• Feline Fix by Five: www.unitedspayalliance.org/feline-fix-by-five
• 2024 United Spay Alliance Online Conference: www.communitycatspodcast.com/events/2024-united-spay-alliance-online-conference

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What if the key to transforming animal welfare was hidden in the precision and efficiency of high-volume spay-neuter services?

On this episode of United We Spay, Stacy sits down with Dr. Becky Morrow, a shelter veterinarian, and professor, who shares her incredible journey from aspiring wildlife vet to founding Frankie's Friends Cat Rescue. Dr. Morrow opens up about her motivations and the hurdles she overcame in setting up a clinic dedicated to rescuing cats from cruelty cases. She passionately discusses how targeted trap-neuter-return programs save lives and significantly improve community health. We also debunk misconceptions about high-volume spay-neuter techniques, revealing their indispensable role in tackling overpopulation and reducing animal suffering.

We also explore the innovative, collaborative veterinary system Dr. Morrow helped implement, which allows veterinarians from various locations to work together seamlessly. Learn about the online courses and hands-on clinic days designed to enhance veterinary skills and support public health initiatives. We touch on the urgent issue of burnout among veterinary professionals and how support from organizational boards can alleviate stress in nonprofit clinics. Discover the benefits of integrating high-volume spay-neuter practices in private clinics and the importance of spaying and neutering cats by five months old.

Tune in for a conversation highlighting the power of high-quality spay-neuter services in animal welfare and public health.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Dr. Becky Morrow's journey from aspiring wildlife vet to founding Frankie's Friends Cat Rescue
• The importance and impact of high-volume spay-neuter services on animal welfare and community health
• Debunking myths and misconceptions about high-volume spay-neuter techniques
• Innovations in collaborative veterinary systems for improved efficiency and skill development
• Addressing burnout among veterinary professionals
• The role of supportive organizational boards
• The benefits of integrating high-volume spay-neuter practices in private clinics
• An emphasis on spaying and neutering cats by five months old to combat overpopulation

Resources from this Episode

Feline Fix by Five: www.unitedspayalliance.org/feline-fix-by-five

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On this episode of United We Spay, learn how spay-neuter services are transforming animal welfare and reducing shelter overpopulation with our expert panel.

Hear from Peter Marsh, who provides historical insights into effective sterilization laws from California and New Hampshire, and learn from Dr. Jeffrey Young and Dr. Phil Bushby about their extensive experience in spay-neuter programs and veterinary training. Learn the importance of spaying and neutering animals before adoption and how these initiatives are essential in preventing an influx of homeless animals in shelters.

We also emphasize the need for veterinary students to master spay-neuter procedures before five months of age, ensuring they are equipped with the best surgical skills upon graduation. Innovative training programs in Colorado and other areas are highlighted for their hands-on approach and high-quality techniques, moving beyond traditional methods.

This episode underscores the importance of adhering to spay-neuter protocols, celebrating the progress made, and calling for ongoing improvements. Visit UnitedSpayAlliance.org and FelineFixedByFive.org to learn more and support this vital cause.

In this episode, you will hear:

• The importance of spay-neuter services in transforming animal welfare and reducing shelter overpopulation
• Historical insights on sterilization laws from California and New Hampshire by Peter Marsh
• Experiences and expertise of Dr. Jeffrey Young and Dr. Phil Bushby in spay-neuter programs and veterinary training
• The significance of spaying and neutering animals before adoption to prevent an influx of homeless animals
• The critical need for veterinary students to master spay-neuter procedures before five months of age
• Innovative training programs with hands-on, high-quality spay-neuter techniques
• Adhering to spay-neuter protocols and celebrating progress in animal welfare initiatives

Resources from this Episode

• Feline Fix by Five: www.unitedspayalliance.org/feline-fix-by-five

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When Craig Neilson and Dr. Joaquin Navaro speak, it's impossible not to be moved by their commitment to transforming animal welfare.

Imagine a world where pet overpopulation is a thing of the past. On this episode of United We Spay, we’re bringing that vision closer to reality as these passionate advocates recall the evolution of spaying and neutering from simple vet procedures to a sophisticated surgeon training program. Their journey outlines the power of compassionate action, and they leave no stone unturned in discussing how these initiatives rescue animals from suffering and safeguard public health, particularly in underserved communities. This conversation reveals the heart of animal welfare work—simple yet effective strategies that reach the roots of overpopulation and suffering.

The conversation continues as we highlight the hands-on aspect of spay and neuter programs and their role in maintaining community health and ecological balance. It's a behind-the-scenes look at the challenges veterinarians face, like Dr. Cesar Tejeda and Dr. Ariel, operating in less-than-ideal conditions while still achieving remarkable success. We share insights into the necessity of skillful technique, the resilience of animal immune systems, and the impact of rabies vaccinations in creating safe boundaries between wildlife and human populations. The episode wraps up by exploring Mexico's trailblazing certified training program, blending digital learning with practical application, a blueprint for expanding these life-saving veterinary skills worldwide.

Join us for a conversation that will enlighten and inspire action toward fostering healthier lives for our four-legged friends and their human companions.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Craig Nielson and Dr. Joaquin Navaro on the evolution of spay/neuter practices into certified training programs for vets
• The impact of efficient spay/neuter strategies on pet overpopulation, public health, and community welfare
• The challenges veterinarians face in high-volume surgeries, particularly in non-ideal conditions
• The importance of rabies vaccination as a public health measure and its role in community animal health initiatives
• A new certified training program in Mexico that blends online theory with hands-on practice
• Personal experiences of veterinarians like Dr. Cesar Tejeda and Dr. Ariel and their contributions to animal welfare through spay/neuter programs
• The ripple effect in communities resulting from expert spay and neuter programs

Resources from this Episode

• Feline Fix by Five: www.unitedspayalliance.org/feline-fix-by-five

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Get the secrets to combating pet overpopulation and discover how spay-neuter programs are a practical solution for communities nationwide.

On this episode of United We Spay, join Stacy as she teams up with Cheri Storms from Pet Friendly Services of Indiana to scrutinize the reproductive rates of cats and dogs that lead to shelter overflows. You’ll hear how their organization champions the fight through financial assistance and voucher programs. We discuss the overwhelming demand for their services and the need for accessible spay-neuter options, especially for low-income pet owners. We also tackle the challenges different geographical areas face, pinpointing why a one-size-fits-all approach isn't feasible for urban and rural settings.

We also acknowledge the elephant in the room: the veterinary shortage crisis in the U.S. Stacy highlights the United Spay Alliance's Veterinary Shortage Task Force, which is paving the way for innovative solutions to bridge the gap in animal healthcare. We consider introducing roles similar to physician's assistants to support the strained workforce and emphasize the urgency for collaboration and creativity in preparing for the inevitable veterinary and technician scarcities.

By emphasizing preventive care through spay-neuter initiatives, we're easing the strain on shelters and promoting healthier, happier communities for pets and their people. Tune in for the full scope of these issues and the inspiring work being done to address them head-on.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Cheri Storms on combating pet overpopulation
• The role of spay-neuter programs, particularly in Indiana
• Financial assistance and voucher programs by Pet Friendly Services of Indiana that ensure low-income pet owners can access spay-neuter services
• Differences in urban and rural challenges for spay-neuter services with unique solutions for each setting
• The veterinary shortage crisis in the U.S., 
• The potential for introducing roles similar to physician's assistants in the veterinary field
• Spay-neuter initiatives as cost-effective and preventative measures that benefit shelters and communities
• An overwhelming demand for spay-neuter services and the rapid filling of available slots for procedures each week
• Community-level programs using collaboration and innovation to address the vet and technician shortages projected for the next decades

Resources from this Episode

• Feline Fix by Five: www.unitedspayalliance.org/feline-fix-by-five
• Pet Friendly Services of Indiana: https://petfriendlyservices.org/

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Join the fight against pet overpopulation as we unpack the power of spay-neuter initiatives with animal welfare advocates Kit O'Doherty and Judie Mancuso.

On this episode of United We Spay, Kit's front-line experiences in California blend with Judie's legislative expertise to highlight the urgency of accessible spay-neuter services. They are an aspect of animal healthcare and a vital public service. This episode reveals how these preventative measures can better the lives of pets and communities.

We explore why efforts in Massachusetts struggled initially and how targeted campaigns eventually led to a dramatic shift in shelter intake statistics. Kit and Judie discuss the financial and systemic advantages of prioritizing spay-neuter practices over traditional adoption models, especially their cost-effectiveness and broader impact on pet overpopulation. We consider the challenges within the veterinary system and draw parallels to the mental health crisis in addressing systemic issues.

As the conversation wraps up, we shift to the boots-on-the-ground experience of political advocacy for animal welfare legislation. Judie's hope for bipartisan support competes with Kit's reflections on the hurdles animal rescuers face with traditional advocacy methods. This discussion reveals the importance of supporting legislative champions dedicated to the animal welfare cause.

Whether you're an animal lover, a policy advocate, or passionate about public service, this episode will stir your sense of responsibility toward our four-legged friends.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Kit O'Doherty and Judie Mancuso on the impact of spay-neuter initiatives on pet overpopulation
• The potential for a public service revolution in animal welfare
• Challenges spay-neuter programs face
• Cost-effectiveness and influence on policy change for animal population control
• The veterinary shortage in California, its connection to pet overpopulation, and innovative solutions
• Judie's optimism for bipartisan support for animal welfare legislation in 2024
• Kit's frustration with traditional advocacy methods
• The importance of spay and neuter practices
• Judie's transition from IT to animal advocacy
• Kit's experiences in shelter volunteering
• A strategic focus on legislation and community-based initiatives to promote spay-neuter programs and reduce the burden on shelters and the veterinary industry

Resources from this Episode:

• Feline Fix by Five: www.unitedspayalliance.org/feline-fix-by-five

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Staring into the pleading eyes of an animal in need, you can't help but feel a pull to do something, anything—that's precisely the moment Linda Chitwood knew she had to act.

This episode of United We Spay takes us through the heart of rural North Mississippi, where Linda, the founder of the Homeless Animals Relief Project (HARP), and Denise Bynum, HARP's director, paint a vivid picture of the critical need for affordable spay-neuter services to prevent pet overpopulation. Their conversation with Stacy navigates low-income communities' challenges, with veterinary deserts leaving pet owners desperate for care. Linda shares the turning point that led her to create HARP, while Denise outlines her journey from volunteer to leader, steering the organization's growth in fundraising, networking, and educational efforts.

The warmth in the voices of community members, unable to give much yet eager to support, echoes throughout this episode, showcasing the gratitude for HARP's work. As we weave through Denise's experiences since taking the reins in July 2022, we're reminded of the power of connection and collaboration in animal welfare. Denise's initiatives, like the launch of a newsletter and a burgeoning Facebook presence, have shaped a diverse donor landscape and spotlighted the stories of those who give despite financial hardships.

We also look at the essential partnerships and the infusion of fresh energy from new veterinarians and rescue groups, which are expanding HARP's reach, demonstrating that the fight against pet overpopulation is a battle won through compassion and teamwork.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Linda Chitwood’s launch of the Homeless Animals Relief Project in rural North Mississippi
• Addressing pet overpopulation through affordable spay-neuter services in low-income, veterinary desert areas
• Denise Bynum’s evolution from volunteer to HARP director
• Enhancing fundraising, networking, and educational outreach, leading to increased spay/neuter operations and growth in donor support
• HARP's community impact 
• Some personal stories of financial struggle and gratitude from those benefitting from HARP’s services
• Social media initiatives and a new newsletter by Denise meant to broaden HARP's donor base
• Efforts to attract higher donations and maintain diverse support
• New partnerships with veterinarians and rescue groups help expand HARP's reach
• The importance of collaboration in the fight against animal overpopulation
• Linda and Denise’s personal motivations and stories in animal welfare
• The urgency of spay/neuter services in rural settings and the growing gap in access compared to urban areas

Resources from this Episode:

• Visit the Feline Fix By Five website: www.unitedspayalliance.org/feline-fix-by-five

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