From foster care and narcissistic abuse to stage-four cancer survivor and trauma-informed life coach, Trish Osborne shows how unlearning perfectionism and people-pleasing becomes real healing.

What if the "good girl" rules are making you sick and small. In this raw, compassionate conversation, Trish Osborne shares her path through foster care, sexual abuse, two narcissistic marriages, and stage-four ovarian cancer, and how she rebuilt self-trust, boundaries, and a life of purpose. We talk nervous system healing, spiritual support, and the truth about generational patterns so you can stop carrying what is not yours.

Key Takeaways

• Perfectionism is a survival strategy, not a personality trait, and it is teachable to release.

• People-pleasing is boundary failure. Your body will keep the score until you change the pattern.

• Healing is daily. Treat it as a gift. Choose one doable practice and repeat.

• Jealousy signals unmet needs. Address the need and the charge dissolves.

• Spiritual support can coexist with grief. You can honor the past and choose a new future.

• Stopping generational trauma begins with honest repair and clear boundaries.

Memorable Quotes

• "Healing is a gift, not a chore." — Trish

• "I was taught to keep everyone else comfortable and it nearly cost me my life." — Kathy

• "Perfection kept me safe as a child. It kept me stuck as an adult." — Trish

• "At any point you can declare your sovereignty and live your own life." — Kathy

• "My people will find me because I am willing to be authentic." — Trish

Guest Trish Osborne is a trauma-informed life coach who helps women release perfectionism and people-pleasing, rebuild boundaries, and end generational patterns. First session is free to check energetic fit. Find Trish on Facebook: Your Healing Journey with Trish Osborne.

Resources Mentioned

• Kathy's books: Unlearn the Crap and Level UP: Your Soul Is Calling and How I Unlearned My Crap (Amazon and bookstores).

• Kathy's site: https://kathybaldwin.me

What actually changes results—strategy or self-belief? In this soul-level, practical episode, Kathy Baldwin and Patricia Stepler dismantle the myth that success starts outside of you. We dive into the Law of Polarity, Law of Relativity, and Law of Gestation—and why the Law of Attraction is an effect, not the cause. You'll hear how Patricia stopped outsourcing her future to systems and "shoulds," and how a powerful identity shift helped her family defy the odds. If you've read every mindset book yet your outcomes still look the same, this one's for you.

➤ Connect with Patricia / Free Gift: https://CreatingTopProducers.com

Explore Kathy's world: https://kathybaldwin.me

Books: Unlearn the Crap & Level UP: Your Soul is Calling and How I Unlearned MY Crap and The Unlearned Life (Amazon & bookstores).

If this hit home, share it with a friend, subscribe, and leave a review—your voice amplifies this movement.

🎙️ Key Highlights

• Guest's "Crap to Unlearn": Stop outsourcing your future to employers, systems, and "shoulds." Your outside results won't change until your inner beliefs do.

• Kathy's tie-in: We talk about how beliefs drive hormones, stress, and the nervous system—and how that biochemistry writes your outer reality.

• Notable context: Patricia's pivot began when her son (a type 1 diabetic) earned a full athletic scholarship—proof that belief + aligned action can beat the odds.

• Relatable signs: Stuck on a pay scale, waiting for permission, feeling like "I've done self-help for years but my results haven't changed."

• Myths challenged: "Law of Attraction is the cause." (Patricia reframes it as an effect.) "Timing is in my control." (Law of Gestation says otherwise.) "My way is the only way." (Law of Relativity shifts perspective.)

• Action step: Audit three areas where you've been obeying "shoulds." Apply: Polarity (find the opposite), Relativity (choose an empowering lens), Gestation (release the timeline).

• Guest freebie/CTA: Add Patricia's link here → [Insert website/quiz/gift link] and I'll weave it through all assets.

💡 Memorable Quotes

• Patricia: "Results change when beliefs change—never the other way around."

• Patricia: "Law of Attraction is an effect. The cause is what you believe and embody daily."

• Patricia: "Get rid of the 'shoulds.' The Law of Gestation says timing isn't your business."

• Kathy: "Your biochemistry is writing your outer reality—beliefs show up as hormones, stress, and decisions."

• Kathy: "Perspective is power. Change the lens; change your life."

After literally falling through a trapdoor and breaking her back, Dr. Melissa Swonger had a choice: collapse into the dark or finally listen to her soul. In less than five months, she wrote her book, launched a nonprofit, and sparked a movement around radical kindness.

Not long ago, Dr. Melissa Swonger took a single step onto what she thought was solid ground…and fell through a trapdoor.

The storm-shelter door opened beneath her, shattering her back and pelvis and forcing her into a season of stillness she never asked for. Lying flat on her back, Melissa finally did the one thing she'd resisted for sixteen years: she wrote her story.

In this episode of Unlearn the Crap & Level Up, host Kathy Baldwin sits down with Melissa to explore how that one decision ignited a wave of radical change.

Together they unpack:

• Growing up with CPTSD and a "world is unsafe" brain

• What happens when trauma trains you for protection instead of connection

• Why forgiveness of an unrepentant parent became the turning point in Melissa's legacy

• Awareness → Connection → Movement as a practical framework for transformation

• The trapdoor accident on May 20, 2025—and the decision to finally write Whom He Raised

• How radical kindness "walks in when everyone else walks out"

• What it means to become an agent of change in your family, your work, and your community

Melissa also shares how The Sage Hill Project is mobilizing radical kindness as a movement, not a moment.

If you've ever felt like you're lying in your own trapdoor moment, wondering how to keep going, this conversation is your reminder that one step—just one—can change everything.

About Kathy Baldwin Kathy Baldwin is the creator of Unlearn the Crap & Level Up, a transformational framework that helps high-impact humans release the conditioned responses and automatic programming that keep them stuck. She is the author of the trilogy: Unlearn the Crap & Level Up: Your Soul Is Calling, How I Unlearned My Crap, and The Unlearned Life: An AI-Powered Ritual System for Truth, Transformation, and Personal Empowerment.

She is also the founder of Finally Podcast Automation, a business infrastructure system built for podcasters and companies who use podcasting as their growth engine. Finally eliminates backend overwhelm, tech chaos, and burnout so leaders can stay focused on their message—not the mechanics.

Learn more, apply to be a guest, or explore Kathy's books at: 👉 https://unlearnthecrap.com Discover the automation system behind this show at: 👉 https://finallypodcastautomation.com

• How CPTSD shapes your nervous system and relationships—and how to start unlearning it

• Why your "one more day" choice matters more than motivational clichés

• The difference between numbing and true healing

• How radical kindness breaks generational patterns and rewrites legacy

• A simple framework: Awareness → Connection → Movement

• Why one act of obedience (writing the story) can open doors you didn't even know existed

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• 00:00 – 02:15 – Cold open + VO intro (Kathy)

• 02:15 – 06:30 – What "crap" Melissa had to unlearn: "the world is unsafe"

• 06:30 – 15:00 – Trapdoor accident, medical trauma history, and hearing "write your story"

• 15:00 – 23:00 – CPTSD explained: hypervigilance, gaslighting, and mental whiplash

• 23:00 – 32:00 – Inner child healing, awareness, and connection work

• 32:00 – 41:00 – Forgiving her mother, breaking bitterness, changing legacy

• 41:00 – 52:00 – Canoeing the mountains: when your tools don't fit your current mountain

• 52:00 – 1:02:00 – Radical kindness: the mentor who wouldn't walk away

• 1:02:00 – 1:10:00 – The Sage Hill Project and mobilizing radical kindness

• 1:10:00 – 1:15:00 – One more day, one more step, and closing call to action

What if pleasure was the missing link in your healing? In this wildly raw, unfiltered, and deeply spiritual conversation, Sarah Jane Wellock shares her journey through cancer, double mastectomy, body reconstruction, and rediscovering the power of erotic energy as medicine.

We talk about feminine suppression, cultural shame, receiving, and how the body remembers not just trauma — but joy. From universal laws to orgasmic meditation, nothing is off-limits in this episode.

Sarah Jane is the founder of Caress, a community that helps women reconnect to their sensual wisdom and heal through pleasure. Find Sara Jane at TheLivingBlog.net

Explore more at kathybaldwin.me and grab Kathy's books Unlearn the Crap and Level UP and How I Unlearned My Crap (Amazon + bookstores).

🎧 Listen, feel, and remember — your body is sacred.

The Power of Pleasure and Permission: Reclaiming the Feminine Body and Voice with Sarah Jane Wellock

🎙️ Key Highlights

• Guest's "Crap to Unlearn": The belief that the body must be hidden, silenced, or shamed — especially women's sexuality and pleasure.

• Kathy's tie-in: The cost of good-girl conditioning, the physical toll of suppression, and how reclaiming embodiment can heal dis-ease.

• Notable moments: Sarah Jane opens up about her double mastectomy and reconstruction journey, the rebirth of feminine power, and how her group Caress uses sensual connection as medicine.

• Taboo topics explored: Universal laws, orgasmic meditation, access consciousness, feminine repression, burkas, cancer healing, and spiritual eroticism.

• Relatable themes: Learning to receive, healing from trauma through pleasure, the link between the nervous system and empowerment, and the body's wisdom as a spiritual compass.

• Guest action step: Experience Caress — a guided group practice for women to reconnect with their bodies and pleasure as healing.

💡 Memorable Quotes

• "The body remembers — not just trauma, but joy." — Sarah Jane

• "Relaxation is a gateway to receiving." — Kathy

• "Pleasure is not shameful. It's sacred." — Sarah Jane

• "We've been taught to numb out. Healing begins when we let ourselves feel." — Kathy

• "Love and pleasure are the same energy that heals the world." — Sarah Jane

Trigger Warning: This episode discusses trauma, abuse, and human trafficking.

When trauma is silenced, the body carries the weight. In this deeply moving episode, Kathy explores how survivors of abuse and trafficking can reclaim their voices, heal, and turn pain into a paid message. From emotional eating and shame to speaking truth on global stages, this conversation reveals why your story is intellectual property—and why you deserve to be heard and paid for it.

We cover trauma recovery, emotional eating, human trafficking awareness, and how speaking your truth can transform both your life and the lives of others.

✨ Resources & tools: https://kathybaldwin.me 📚 Books: Unlearn the Crap & Level UP: Your Soul is Calling + How I Unlearned MY Crap (Amazon & bookstores)

If this episode resonates, please share, subscribe, and leave a review. Your voice can help someone else begin to heal.

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Connect with Orly Amor visit her website at https://meetorlyamor.com/

Highlights:

• Guest unlearned: victim identity, shame, people-pleasing.

• Kathy tie-in: body judgment vs. body as protection.

• Notable stat: Survived severe abuse; at 428 lbs; rebuilt as global speaker/coach with $150K guarantee.

• Relatable signs: emotional eating, carrying invisible weight, delaying dreams until "perfect."

• Myths challenged: "Eat less, move more" solves trauma; abuse stories stay silent; stories can't pay bills.

• Action step: Journal — "What weight am I carrying that isn't mine?"

Quotes:

• "Your story is intellectual property—you paid for it with your life."

• "I had to evict the perpetrators from my mind."

• "My body wasn't lazy—it was protecting me."

• "What is your body trying to protect you from?"

What happens when your body, your business, and your life feel out of sync? In this episode, Megan Dirks shares how living with PCOS and weight struggles shaped her journey, and how finding alignment in health and business completely transformed her path.

As the founder of The Girl on the Left Project, Megan challenges women to step out of the shadows, reframe the stories they tell themselves, and redefine success on their own terms. From grief and personal healing to marketing and business growth, Megan exemplifies what it means to carry the hidden weight so many women face—and to alchemize it into strength, clarity, and visibility.

If you've ever struggled with your body while building a business, or wondered how to align your personal truth with professional success, this conversation will resonate deeply.

What if the weight you're carrying isn't just on the scale—but in the stories you tell yourself?

In this powerful episode, Megan Dirks shares how PCOS, weight struggles, and grief shaped her personal and professional journey—and how she found alignment that changed everything.

As the founder of The Girl on the Left Project, Megan is helping women step out of the shadows, reclaim their visibility, and redefine success on their own terms. Together, we dive into health, healing, business growth, and the personal alignment that ties them all together.

If you've ever felt out of sync with your body or business, this episode will resonate deeply.

• The hidden weight women carry through PCOS, grief, and body shame

• Why personal alignment is the foundation of business success

• How the Girl on the Left Project is helping women step into visibility

• Practical insights on reframing your story to reclaim power and confidence

• How personal healing fuels professional growth

• "The weight you carry isn't always on the scale—it's in the stories you tell yourself." – Megan Dirks

• "Alignment is when your body, your business, and your truth finally match." – Megan Dirks

• "The Girl on the Left is every woman who's been overlooked, underestimated, or hidden—and is ready to step forward." – Megan Dirks

• "Your personal healing and your business growth aren't separate—they're the same journey." – Kathy Baldwin

• Explore more with Kathy → https://kathybaldwin.me

• Books by Kathy:

  • Unlearn the Crap & Level UP: Your Soul is Calling

  • How I Unlearned MY Crap

  • The Unlearned Life

Connect with Megan Dirks at BrandOSaurusMeg.com

Parenting from survival mode is not love, it's trauma reenactment. In this raw and hopeful episode, Emily Cleghorn, founder of Mamahood After Trauma and bestselling author, shares how she stopped parenting from reactivity, healed her nervous system, and began mothering from peace. We talk about how unprocessed trauma lives in the body, what overwhelm really looks like, and why self-awareness is a muscle you can strengthen every day. Together we unlearn the cultural silence around pain and reclaim compassion — for ourselves and the generations after us.

Grab Emily's free Unlocking Peace Guide at mamahoodaftertrauma.ca.

Explore Kathy's world and books at kathybaldwin.me. Unlearn the Crap and Level UP: Your Soul Is Calling and How I Unlearned My Crap are available on Amazon and in bookstores.

If this conversation moved you, share it, subscribe, and leave a review. Healing ripples through generations.

🔥 Title/Theme Healing the Mother Wound: How to Stop Parenting from Survival Mode

🎙️ Key Highlights

• Guest's "Crap to Unlearn": Living from survival mode, confusing hypervigilance for love, parenting from fear instead of peace.

• Kathy's tie-in: How unprocessed trauma becomes physical illness and generational repetition — and why awareness is the first step to freedom.

• Notable facts: Emily is founder of Mamahood After Trauma, host of the Mamahood After Trauma Podcast, and bestselling author of Rising from the Ashes and Breaking Free.

• Relatable signs: Snapping at your kids, chronic overwhelm, gut issues, people-pleasing, pretending everything's fine while feeling empty inside.

• Myths challenged: "What happens at home stays at home," "We don't talk that way," "Kids are resilient no matter what happens," "Peace must be earned."

• Guest freebie/CTA: Free Unlocking Peace Guide — seven-page download with emotional regulation tools at mamahoodaftertrauma.ca.

• Audience action step: Notice your next big reaction, pause, ask "What was that about?" and let the truth rise instead of pushing it down.

💡 Memorable Quotes

• "Peace isn't a luxury. It's your birthright." — Kathy

• "Trauma is what happens inside you when you face pain alone." — Emily

• "Self-awareness is a muscle; reflection is how you strengthen it." — Emily

• "We perform to survive, but healing starts when we stop pretending everything's fine." — Kathy

• "When you challenge everything, you can change anything." — Kathy

What if fear in the water is the same fear that's holding you back in life?

In this episode of Unlearn the Crap & Level Up: Your Soul is Calling, Kathy Baldwin sits down with Cori Myka, swim coach and transformation guide, to explore how learning to swim as an adult reveals the deeper conditioning we all carry.

Cori shares why so many adults avoid the water, how fear of sinking mirrors the fear of being seen, and what happens when we finally trust ourselves enough to let go. From swimming lessons to self-worth, Cori shows how confidence in the pool ripples out into confidence in everyday life. ✨

Connect with Cori Mika: https://adultswimlesson.com/

📚 Explore Kathy's books Unlearn the Crap & Level UP: Your Soul is Calling and How I Unlearned MY Crap — available on Amazon and in bookstores.

🌐 Learn more at kathybaldwin.me

👉 Subscribe for more episodes and share this one with someone who's ready to face fear and step into freedom.

🔑 Key Points

Why adults often carry deep fear when learning to swim

How fear in the water mirrors fear in everyday life

The hidden conditioning that teaches us to play small and stay quiet

Why owning your gifts and "tooting your own horn" isn't arrogance — it's empowerment

How facing fear in one area (like the pool) ripples into confidence everywhere

💬 Memorable Quotes From Cori Mika:

"The same fear that keeps someone from getting in the water is the fear that keeps them playing small in life."

"Learning to swim isn't just about strokes — it's about trust. Trusting the water, and trusting yourself."

"Tooting your own horn isn't arrogance. It's standing firm on your foundation so you can actually contribute."

From Kathy Baldwin:

"What struck me most was how fear in the pool looks exactly like fear in life — the fear of sinking, the fear of losing control, the fear of being seen."

"When we minimize ourselves, we don't just hide our gifts — we rob the world of what we're here to give."

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Why do diets fail and stress always seem to win?

In this episode of Unlearn the Crap & Level Up: Your Soul is Calling, Kathy Baldwin sits down with Deepak Saini, longevity coach and health strategist, to unpack the myths that keep us stuck, inflamed, and aging faster than we should.

Together, we dive into the hidden cost of "eat less, move more," the link between suppressed emotions and disease, and how stress and inflammation quietly shape our health, hormones, and energy. Deepak shares practical steps for reversing aging naturally, healing the nervous system, and reclaiming vitality from the inside out.

✨ Connect with Deepak at deepaksainihealth.com

📚 Explore Kathy's books Unlearn the Crap & Level UP: Your Soul is Calling and How I Unlearned MY Crap — available on Amazon and in bookstores.

🌐 Learn more at kathybaldwin.me

If this conversation resonates, don't forget to subscribe, share, and leave a comment — your soul is calling you to step into more.

🔑 Key Points

Why the "eat less, move more" formula keeps people sick, stressed, and inflamed The hidden connection between stress, suppressed emotions, and disease

How inflammation accelerates aging and impacts hormones, gut health, and energy Daily practices to reprogram the nervous system and support longevity

Why unlearning old health myths is the key to reclaiming vitality

💬 Memorable Quotes

Deepak Saini: "Stress doesn't just live in your mind — it shows up in your body as inflammation, gut issues, and accelerated aging."

"You can't diet your way out of a nervous system that's stuck in survival mode."

"Longevity isn't about living longer, it's about living better — without pain, without burnout, and without disease."

Kathy Baldwin:

"What hit me was realizing how much of what I've carried in my body wasn't even mine — it was programming I needed to unlearn."

"We've been taught to push harder and do more, but what if healing starts by slowing down and listening to what the body has been saying all along?"

We were told not to talk about money, sex, or politics but that rule kept us small. This episode cracks open sexual shame, emotional safety, and the truth about real intimacy.

Former healthcare lawyer Xanet Pailet left a 26-year sexless marriage at 50 and rebuilt her life as a sex and intimacy educator. In this raw, liberating conversation, we unpack how breath, sound, and movement move sexual energy from the root to the heart, why emotional safety is the doorway to desire, and how your core desires, to be adored, taken, or cherished, often echo childhood wounds and even ancestral patterns. If you're done performing and ready to feel, this is where empowerment starts.

👉 Connect with Xanet: howtoimprovemylovelife.com Get her free 3-minute tools and videos to improve your love life.

📚 Explore Kathy's books: Unlearn the Crap & Level UP: Your Soul Is Calling and How I Unlearned My Crap — available on Amazon and in bookstores. Visit unlearnthecrap.com to read more or apply to be a guest.

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Xanet Pailet

• "Safety is the doorway to desire."

• "Your core desire comes from your core wound—know it, honor it, communicate it."

• "Sexless marriage is a symptom of injured emotional connection."

• "Breath, sound, and movement turn performance into presence."

• "When the second chakra is blocked, everything above it shuts down."

Kathy Baldwin

• "Your body keeps the promises your mouth refuses to speak."

• "Pleasure is a birthright, not a reward for perfection."

• "If you're done performing and ready to feel, this is where empowerment starts."

• "Challenge everything so you can achieve anything including an orgasmic life."