Unpacked with Skyler

Unpacked with Skyler

By Skyler ElmerReligion & Spirituality
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Unpacked with Skyler episodes

  • Leadership Lessons Learned through Covid with Eddie Lowen

    In this episode Skyler interviews Eddie Lowen on what it was like to transition a large church completely digital (due to Covid-19) while undergoing one the biggest building project in the churches history, and leadership lessons he's learned along the way. Eddie is a seasoned leader with lots of experience and lives and breaths leadership. Eddie is the lead pastor at Westside Christian Church in Springfield, IL.


    Westside Christian Church

    Highlights from interview

    • Covid has revealed and accelerated what has already been in our hearts and minds. 
  • This seasons has unlocked the genius of the church.
  • The church doesn't require a location to be activated for mission.
  • The quicker we are to accept that disruption is our reality
  • The church was designed to flourish in and with instability.
  • God's favorite  part of my story is the part where I trust him.
  • 47 min
  • My Strange Bible: How To Interpret Apocalyptic Literature For All Its Worth.

    In this episode Skyler interviews Dr. Shane Wood on one of the most particular literature in the Bible know as Apocalyptic. Many wrongly understand this genre as short hand for prediction of the end of the world. However, Shane helps us understand what it actually does and how reading it that way side steps what God intends to do inside of people.  Shane is a New Testament scholar who earned his Ph.D. from the University of Edinburgh on Revelation and currently teaches New Testament Studies at Ozark Christian College where he is the Associate Academic Dean at Ozark Christian College.


    Shane Wood
    Garden City Project: Online Class on Revelation
    Blue Letter Bible
    Next Level Revelation (Free Course)
    Revelation's Rhapsody (Book)
    Breaking the Code (Book)
    Commentary on Revelation (Book)


    Highlights on Apocalyptic Literature

    • Apocalyptic literature is a group of texts that are communicating transcendent realities, (things beyond our senses) often communicated by otherworldly beings (e.g. angels), that are heavily laden with symbolism that emerges out of a time of perceived or real persecution.
  • The goal is to reveal clearly who God is through exaggerated images.
  • Apocalyptic texts are intentionally designed to communicate truth at the emotive side of humanity. This allows us to be challenged and transformed at the deepest part of ourselves. And it invites us to place ourselves into the redemptive story of the Bible.
  • Fun Fact: only 17% of all prophetic words and phrases are predictive in nature.
  • 45 min
  • Civil disobedience, rioting, and politics with Dr. Mark Moore

    In this episode Skyler interviews Dr. Mark Moore on the pressing issue happening right now in our country and where Christians should do about it. More than that, how we move forward from here. Mark is a New Testament scholar who earned his Ph.D. from the University of Wales on the Politics of Jesus and currently the Teaching pastor at Christ Church of the Valley in Arizona.


    Links
    Mark Moore
    Christ Church of the Valley (CCV)
    Ozark Christian College
    Core 52 (Website)
    Core 52 (Book)
    The Chronological Life of Christ (Book)

    Recommended Resources from Mark
    How the West Won, Rodeny Stark (Book)
    Mark's recent sermon on Racism

    41 min
  • Transformation from Death to Life with Dr. Shane Wood

    In this episode Skyler interviews Dr. Shane Wood on his most recent book Between Two Trees: our transformation from death to life. Shane is a New Testament scholar who earned his Ph.D. from the University of Edinburgh and currently resides in Joplin, MO where he is Professor of New Testament Studies and the Associate Academic Dean at Ozark Christian College. The book originally was designed to be about explaining how to read the book of Revelation, but it soon morphed into a book about God transformation in our lives. Shane helps students of the Bible understand the importance of sin, salvation, and the message of spiritual transformation in a fresh and insightful way.


    Shane Wood
    Ozark Christian College
    Between Two Trees Book
    Between Two Trees Class (free)

    35 min
  • Thriving in Babylon (What God is doing in the secular Northwest)

    In this episode Skyler interviews pastor Nolan Tjaden on the amazing story of what God is doing at Rise City Church in the secular area of Oregon. Nolan does not have your traditional ministry journey, and yet after feeling very strongly that God was calling him into ministry he responded and has experienced God work in powerful ways. In this episode Nolan shares his story and lessons he has learned along the way leading in the church. Nolan is currently on staff as the Youth and Young Adult Pastor at Rise City Church.


    Links
    Rise City Church
    Parent Podcast

    Intentional things Rise City Church did to thrive in Babylon (ie, Oregon)

    • Build a church on a theology of mission.
  • Empowered all Christians to do ministry (not just pastors)
  • Look for average people to lead, not just professional.
  • Embraced the hustle: work hard, don't be lazy.
  • 48 min
  • Unpacking loneliness and depression with Dr. Gary Zustiak

    In this episode Skyler interviews Dr. Gary Zustiak (Dr. Zus) on the growing issues loneliness and depression. Dr. Zus holds a DMin from Abilene Christian University and is the head of the Psychology and Counseling program at Ozark Christian College. He has been regarded as a longtime expert on youth ministry and mental health, and he has written a number of related works, including the books Intensive Care: A Manual for the Nonprofessional Who Work with Hurting and Broken Youth and Student Ministry That Leaves a Mark: Changing Youth to Change the World.


    Links
    Gary Zustiak
    Jean Twenge: iGen
    Nicholas Kardaras: Glow Kids
    The Coddling of the American Mind
    National Suicide Prevention Lifeline 1-800-273-8255

    Notes:

    How to recognize it before it becomes a problem:

    1. Know yourself and monitoring your emotional pulse. Ask questions like: "How often do you feel hopeless? How often do you feel that you have lost interest in the things that used to bring you joy or purpose? How often do you feel overwhelmed? etc.
  • Do not isolate yourself or deny the problem hoping it will go away. Ask for help.
  • Steps to manage depression:

     1. Be intentional about rebuilding connections

    • Do things you’ve never done before.
  • Like having virtual hangouts with friends or family.
  • 2. Follow a normal routine.

    • Get up and go to bed at similar times every day.
  • Organize your day.
  • Keep up with personal hygiene.
  • Eat healthy meals at regular times.
  • Exercise regularly.
  • Allocate time for working and time for resting.
  • Make time for doing things you enjoy.
  • The more you structure your day, the more your brain will calm down.
  • 3. Make a list of things you can control.

    • Surrender what you can’t.
  • Write down things you actually have choices with.
  • Minimize newsfeeds. Try to reduce how much you watch, read or listen to news that makes you feel anxious or distressed. Seek the latest information at specific times of the day, once or twice a day if needed.
  • 4. Practice mindfulness.

    • Take every thought captive.
  • Don’t give in to thoughts of panic, process your thoughts.
  • Increase all the spiritual practices you do.
  • 5. Reach out to loved ones in your life whom you can talk to.

    6. Don’t hesitate to seek professional help.

    • God never intended for us to face our problems alone.

    How to help if someone battling depression

    • If you believe someone is struggling with depression reach out to them. Let them know you care.
  • Treat people how they want to be treated. 
  • Respect their wishes.
  • Listen non-judgmentally.
  • Give support and reassurance.
  • Encourage professional help if needed.
  • Encourage self-help organizations like Celebrate Recovery.
  • 43 min
  • Unpacking difficult Bible passages with Scott Womble

    In this episode Skyler interviews Dr. Scott Womble on why the Bible is so difficult and hard to understand. Scott is the Vice President of Academics & Professor of Bible & Ministry at Saint Louis Christian College where he has been teaching Bible interpretation for over 20 years. In this episode Scott shares with us why the Bible is not nearly as difficult as we make it and a few tricks of the trade to interpreting the Bible well.


    Links
    Scott Womble
    Double Slit experience
    Entanglement
    How to Read the Bible for all it's Worth (Beginners)
    Grasping God's Word (Advanced)

    Notes:
    Why the Bible important?

    1. It is the basis for life and faith in Christ. 
  • It shows us the Story of Salvation. 
  • It explains what God's will is for your life.
  • Is the Bible hard to understand?

    1. It is easier to understand than we think.
  • It is hard when ignore its literary context.
  • Read the Bible like you would a newspaper. Different sections require different rules of interpretations (headlines, comics, advertisements, obituaries, etc.). The Bible is a large book with different literary genres (narrative, law, prophetic, poetic, etc.). 
  • The Central Message of the Bible

    1. God created everything.
  • God revealed himself (the Bible).
  • There's a Sin problem (God is holy and humans are sinful).
  • God's love overcame the Sin problem (Jesus came to die for sin and was resurrected).
  • Follow Jesus and live in eternity with God.
  • Dos and Don'ts for Reading the Bible

    1. Learn the context of the passage (Context is king): Layers of context:
      1. Immediate: the paragraph
  • Surrounding: several chapters
  • The book: what is the book about
  •  the Bible: what is the message of the bible
  • Christian: Read bigger portions of Scripture (e.g., read the New Testament in a Month)
  • Non-Christian: Start by reading the Gospel of John.

  • 41 min
  • Bonus: The Biblical Answer to Racism with Shane Wood

    In this episode Skyler interviews Dr. Shane Wood on the issue of racism from Shane's book Between Two Trees. Shane is a New Testament scholar who earned his Ph.D. from the University of Edinburgh and currently resides in Joplin, MO where he is Professor of New Testament Studies and the Associate Academic Dean at Ozark Christian College. As a biracial family, Shane has had to wrestle with the troubling problem that plagues our country today.


    Shane Wood
    Ozark Christian College
    Between Two Trees Book
    Between Two Trees Class (free)

    39 min
  • Leading into the unknown with Devin Robertson

    In this episode Skyler interviews Devin Robertson about lessons learned while being a young leader. Devin is the lead pastor at the Cornerstone Christian Church in Jackson, MI and has had to navigate through many unknown seasons as a leader. In Devin shares his perspective  interview we talk about what makes Jesus unique, what hangs people up, and how to help skeptics on their journey toward faith.


    Concerns and Excitement about the post-pandemic season

    • Reengaging with safety while focusing more spiritually than physically (how do we balance between operating in fear and operating wisely)
  • Church is viewed with greater importance. 
  • Leadership lessons

    • Mission drives everything
  • Successful leaders have a variety of people around them 
  • It only hurt the organization when you cast doubt on those leading in chair one (Chair one is harder than you think).
  • God will often use you disproportionally to who you
  • A Few Tips to staying healthy

    • Play as hard as you work.
  • Listen to the core voices around you (not the distant voices). 
  • Remember God always uses broken people to lead broken people. 
  • Read Leadership Pain by Samuel Chand.
  • Call someone more seasoned than you.
  • Links:

    Devin Robertson
    Cornerstone Christian Church
    Leadership Pain, by Samuel Chand

    49 min
  • Unpacking the problem of Jesus with Mark Clark

    In this episode Skyler interviews Mark Clark on the problem of Jesus. Mark is the lead pastor at the Village Church in Vancouver Canada and author of the book The Problem of God. Mark is passionate about reaching people for Jesus and helping skeptics find answer to their questions. In this interview we talk about what makes Jesus unique, what hangs people up, and how to help skeptics on their journey toward faith.


    What makes Jesus Unique

    • He claimed to be God in a way a first century Jew would understand.
  • He claimed to be the only way to the Father
  • He claimed to accomplish what humans could never do for themselves (ie. Pay for their own sins).
  • What are the common hangups for post-Christian people

    • Reliability of Jesus
  • Sexuality
  • Exclusivity 
  • Errors and contradictions
  • Not wanting to be narrowed into one belief system
  • Hypocritical 
  • How can people encourage skeptics toward belief 

    • Bridge the gap between faith and science
  • Encourage people to read through the Gospels.
  • Start with Jesus identity statement, then look at the evidence for the resurrection. 
  • Belief probably won’t happen over night, it’s a process.
  • Links:

    The Village Church
    Mark Clark
    The Problem of God
    The Problem of Jesus

    Most influential books for Mark on Jesus (outside of the Bible)

    N.T Wright, Jesus and the victory of God; John P Meier; The Marginal Jew Vol. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,

    32 min

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The Unpacked Podcast is a podcast devoted to unpacking faith, life, and leadership with Skyler Elmer. The goal is simplify big ideas for greater impact in everyday people. Feel free to connect with me…