Unraveled Podcast

Daryl is out this week, so Gus Johnson and Dayton Kilgus join RJ to talk through Sunday's sermon, Hope Through the Curse. It started with a Kintsugi pot, the broken clay piece put back together with gold, and the picture holds up. God doesn't just repair broken people. He makes them more valuable than they were before the break.

From Genesis 3, the guys work through the hard parts of the curse, the pain of childbearing, the pull to control, and the man who stays silent instead of leading. Dayton is honest about the first years of his marriage, when he wasn't leading well and Marie had to step up, and what finally changed. They get into pursuing a spouse without nagging, praying for a change of heart instead of trying to be the Holy Spirit, and what it looks like to keep modeling faith for your kids when you know your own failures. Pull up a chair.

The serpent shows up in Genesis 3 and gets cursed, and right there in the middle of the curse God announces the first promise of a rescuer. Pastor Daryl calls it the first gospel in all of scripture, and it lands about four verses into humanity's worst day. That gap between what Adam and Eve could see and what we can see looking back at Jesus is where this whole conversation lives.

RJ sits down with Daryl Evans and Gus Johnson to work through the sermon, starting with everyone's snake stories and moving into the harder stuff. Daryl talks about the difference between wanting to be like God and wanting to be God, and why pride keeps finding the crack. There's a Bruce Almighty detour, a golf analogy about the next shot, and a practical suggestion: look at your calendar, your bank statement, and your social feeds to find where you've been trying to sit in God's chair. It closes on Romans 5:8 and why grace can feel too simple to accept. Pull up a chair.

When something goes wrong, hiding is usually our first move. This episode starts with Daryl's story about the family dog who chewed through the drywall and then disappeared the second she heard him come home, and it turns into an honest conversation about why we do the same thing with God and with each other.

Working through Genesis 3 and Sunday's sermon, "Where Are You," the guys sit with the difference between Adam, who hid and blamed his wife, and David, who finally owned his sin and asked God for a clean heart. They get into why confession brings freedom, how keeping short accounts with God keeps us from drifting, and how that same blame instinct shows up in 2026, in our marriages, our politics, and our own hearts. RJ, Daryl, Dayton, and Gus stay honest about their own struggles the whole way through. Pull up a chair.

For Father's Day, we flipped the usual script. Instead of a hammer session for everyone's shortcomings, Daryl's sermon "Imperfect Fathers" lands on grace, the kind God gives dads who already know they fall short. We talk honestly about messing up, owning it in front of our kids, and the truth that you can't change the past but you can change how you move forward.

Genesis 3 isn't anybody's favorite chapter, but the lies buried in it are the same ones we still fall for. The serpent's whole pitch was that God is holding something back from you, that you're missing out. RJ and Pastor Daryl Evans sit with how that quiet fear still runs underneath the way a lot of us live.

The Hebrew word translated "helper" in Genesis 2 is the same word used elsewhere in Scripture to describe God himself. That reframe changes a lot about how you read Eve's introduction to the story, and this week's conversation pulls on that thread. Pastor Daryl Evans, Dayton Kilgus, and Marie Bachtold join to work through what the creation account actually says about men, women, and why the original design was good.

Genesis 2 raises a question a lot of Christians have quietly carried: did God use evolution to get us here? This week the crew works through what the text actually says, why theistic evolution runs into problems once you reach the end of chapter two, and how the enemy has always worked the same way he did in the garden.

Pastor Daryl, Dayton, and Gus join RJ to talk through the shift from Elohim to Yahweh Elohim in Genesis 2, why Moses changed the name and what it signals before the serpent ever shows up, and what it means to be formed and breathed into rather than evolved into. The second half turns to work as a pre-fall design, not a curse, and whether your Monday is as sacred as Sunday morning. Have a listen.

Most of us know we should rest. We just keep pushing it to next week, or next season, or when the kids finally leave the house. This episode of Unraveled is a pretty honest conversation about what rest actually looks like in real life, why we're wired to resist it, and what it might mean that God built a rhythm of stopping into the week on purpose.

RJ sits down with Pastor Daryl Evans, Dayton Kilgus, and Gus Johnson to talk through the tension between busyness and Sabbath. They cover the difference between rest and just changing tasks, how to find pockets of rest when your work genuinely never stops (stay-at-home parents, farmers, anyone with a baby), the competitive fear that if you slow down someone else will pass you, and what it looks like when God forces the slowdown himself. Daryl shares a story involving a cow and the end of a finger that sums up the whole thing pretty well. Have a listen.

Genesis 1:26-31 closes the creation account with a verdict reserved for one day only: very good. On Mother's Day, Pastor Daryl Evans asks why God paused for the first time in six days before forming humanity, and why that pause changes how you read your own life.

Continuing the Genesis series, Daryl works through the divine deliberation of verse 26, four characteristics that set humans apart from every other creature (erect posture, upward gaze, facial expression, articulate speech), and the creation mandate to cultivate and have dominion. He draws on John MacArthur on divine deliberation, John Piper on covenantal delight, Henry Morris on the image of God, and Michelangelo's chisel as a picture of how God still shapes the people he calls very good. You are not an afterthought, you are a forethought, and the God who called creation very good is not done with you yet.

Week 2 of our Genesis series picks up Pastor Daryl's light-switch illustration from Sunday — when God speaks, do we respond immediately, or do we keep pushing His voice away until it gets quiet? RJ, Gus, Dayton, and Daryl dig into what it means to "say yes in advance" to God's Word, how to read familiar passages like "let there be light" with fresh eyes, and why God's provision on Day 3 required trust through Day 2.