4AM won’t make you Elon Musk - but it might save your evening.

In this episode, Will Abel and Michael Grier unpack one of the most misunderstood topics in entrepreneurship: the myth of “Founder Energy.” They get honest about the tradeoff between fast mornings and slow evenings, and why copying billionaire routines won’t build your business.. it’ll burn you out.

This isn’t about clout or grind theatrics. It’s about designing your day so you can actually sustain the work. From using sleep as a growth tool to protecting your peace, the hosts dive deep into what real discipline looks like for founders who want longevity, not burnout.

Key Topics Covered:

• Why “fast mornings” create room for “slow evenings”

• How to use sleep as a competitive advantage

• When discipline turns into obligation

• Why copying billionaires won’t scale your startup

• Momentum vs. motivation in entrepreneurship

• The power of recurring value and feedback loops

• Longevity over virality in business and content

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Connect with the hosts:
Will Abel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/willabel
Michael Grier: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelgrier

Why stepping back can multiply your impact.

Tyrone Hazen does not just build businesses. He builds entrepreneurs. The Puffin Drinkwear founder returns with a new season of leadership, having hired a CEO and stepped back from day-to-day operations. What surprised him most is the satisfaction of seeing his clients’ products hit retail shelves, right alongside his own.

This conversation goes where the first one could not. Tyrone unpacks the difference between being an entrepreneur and choosing to become one, why some people are wired for chaos while others train into it, and how entrepreneurship is an artistic pursuit at its core. We get into the shift from ego to crystallized wisdom, the reality that raw computational power fades with age while question quality grows, and why knowing which problems to solve is the real unlock.

We also explore his Roadmap to Retail masterclass, upcoming collaborations, and the transition strategy he is running now. One foot in Puffin, one foot in coaching, and a conviction that unused knowledge is wasted potential.

Key Topics Covered:

• Entrepreneur by wiring vs entrepreneur by decision

• The artistic nature of building companies

• From ego-driven pursuits to durable wisdom

• Knowing which problems are worth solving

• Roadmap to Retail and getting on shelves

• Transitioning from CEO to founder coach

• Scale, patience, and longer timelines

• Why unused knowledge is a deck of cards you never play

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Connect with Tyrone Hazen:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tyronehazen
Website: https://tyronehazen.com
Puffin Drinkwear: https://puffindrinkwear.com

Connect with the hosts:
Will Abel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/willabel
Michael Grier: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelgrier

You don’t always end up where you thought you would - sometimes it’s better.

Michael thought he’d be running a creative empire by now. Will thought he’d own multiple businesses and be long out of corporate life. Plot twist: they both landed in completely different industries - and somehow found more fulfillment than they expected.

In this episode, the Unscriptd co-hosts drop the performance and get real about career expectations, turning 30, and the pressure to “be further along.” Michael breaks down why most organizations are faking their AI expertise, why data engineers shouldn’t stay at one company longer than 24 months, and how to strategically “set your rate” by moving intentionally.

Then things get personal - from both admitting their secret dream of being architects to Will’s “truck theater” business pitch and Michael’s mirror pep talks at networking events. What starts as career talk turns into a reflection on vision, partnership, and how complementary personalities make everything work.

Key Topics Covered:

• Why your 30s rarely look how you expected

• The truth about corporate AI and fake expertise

• The smart way to level up in data and tech careers

• Secret dream jobs and creative detours

• Why opposites make better business partners

• The rebranding argument that almost ended everything

• Finding purpose in unexpected places

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Connect with the hosts:
Will Abel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/willabel
Michael Grier: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelgrier

Three seasons. One voice that never needed permission.

Christine Schumann doesn’t play it safe. She posts her truth, builds her empire, and couldn’t care less if it makes people uncomfortable. As the first guest to hit a hat-trick on Unscriptd - three appearances, three seasons - Christine proves that authenticity and boldness still win in a world obsessed with image.

This isn’t the same Christine from Season 1. Back then, she was navigating divorce, building Sage & Hawk from scratch, and redefining who she was outside everyone else’s expectations. Today, she’s renovating a 1976 Airstream into a luxury Airbnb, expanding her business into Dallas, and speaking her multi-state property empire into existence.

What makes her story hit harder this time is how grounded she remains - covered in tattoos, unapologetically West Texan, and embraced by the same oil field execs who once doubted her. She’s proof that being yourself, fully and loudly, is still good business.

Key Topics Covered:

• The emotional cost of being a creator

• Building an authentic brand in a judgmental world

• West Texas grit and staying grounded

• Boudoir, body autonomy, and double standards

• The evolution from survival to purpose

• Finding relationships and friendships that actually pour back

• AI’s impact on creative freedom and authenticity

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Connect with Christine Schumann:
Instagram (Personal): https://www.instagram.com/christineschumann_
Instagram (Sage & Hawk): https://www.instagram.com/sageandhawk
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/christine.schumann

Connect with the host:
Will Abel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/willabel

Forget the image. Build a real life instead.

No guest this week.. just two guys trying to build something meaningful while juggling 9-5s, families, and late-night editing sessions that blur into early mornings. No guru talk. No “5 steps to success.” Just real conversation about what it takes to keep going when the world tells you to polish everything you do.

Will and Michael dive into what happens when imposter syndrome makes you an actor in your own story, the pressure to monetize every passion, and the constant tension between faith, family, and building something that matters.

This episode isn’t about personal branding, it’s about being honest, staying grounded, and remembering why you started in the first place.

Key Topics Covered:

• Why you don’t need a personal brand to live intentionally

• The cost of imposter syndrome and pretending online

• How over-monetization steals creativity

• Faith and family as the real foundation

• Compounding skills and staying humble in business

• What authenticity actually looks like in 2025

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Connect with the hosts:
Will Abel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/willabel
Michael Grier: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelgrier

Behind every business is a human story being lived in real time.

This episode wasn’t about guests or headlines, it was about honesty. Will Abel and Michael Grier sit down to unpack the pressure, burnout, and weight that come with building something meaningful while navigating real life at the same time.

Will shares how the drive to monetize nearly stripped away the joy of creating, and how the right conversations brought him back to why he started. Michael opens up about showing up through personal struggles, finding purpose behind the mic, and how podcasting became therapy instead of just another platform.

It’s raw, unfiltered, and real - a reminder that success means nothing if you lose yourself in the process.

Key Topics Covered:

• The danger of over-monetizing creativity

• Juggling family, work, and purpose

• Processing emotions instead of burying them

• How podcasting became more than a business

• The difference between building a brand and building a life

• Finding gratitude in the middle of the grind

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Connect with the hosts:
Will Abel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/willabel
Michael Grier: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelgrier

She doesn’t do warm-ups, she builds things that last.

Sam Sterling doesn’t start small talk. The moment we hit record, she went straight into what it really takes to build something that outlives its launch. She’s helped open billion-dollar storefronts, built high-conversion funnels for luxury brands, and launched in markets most founders will only ever Google.

But this isn’t a highlight reel. This is the real side of building - the experiments that flop, the quiet work that compounds, and the patience it takes to create something you can actually be proud of.

Today, Sam’s running Subiaco, a venture lab where she pressure-tests new ideas, scraps the ones wasting oxygen, and scales the ones that have teeth. This episode is for anyone ready to stop romanticizing startups and start learning what survival really looks like.

Key Topics Covered:

• Why starting small is playing smart, not safe

• Protecting trust and curiosity in a shortcut culture

• Knowing when to pivot or walk away

• How to build a career that survives failure

• Behind Subiaco’s venture lab model

• Lessons from launching luxury and tech brands

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Connect with Sam Sterling:
Website: https://subia.co
TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@thesterlingexperiment
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samsterling

Connect with the hosts:
Will Abel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/willabel
Michael Grier: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelgrier

Most founders build for the next quarter. Adam’s building for eternity.

In this episode of Unscriptd, Will Abel and Michael Grier sit down with Adam Weisner - founder and coach of Kingdom Mindset Strategies and Unbreakable OS, and managing partner of Sherman Portfolios, a firm that gives 51% of its profits away.

Adam shares a rare perspective on what it means to lead with faith in business. This conversation moves beyond growth metrics to the eternal metrics that matter - stewardship over scale, purpose over profit, and the danger of chasing outcomes instead of obedience.

Together, they explore how faith shapes execution, the 7 biblical laws of leadership, and why legacy isn’t built in the spotlight but in the systems that outlast you.

Key Topics Covered:

• The 7 laws every faith-driven founder should build on

• What execution says about your theology

• How to lead without making it about you

• Why legacy is more systems than spotlight

• Stewardship over scale and profit

• Sherman Portfolios’ 51% Kingdom model

• How to build without burning out

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Connect with Adam Weisner:
Unbreakable OS: https://www.unbreakableos.com
Kingdom Mindset Strategies: https://www.kingdommindsetstrategies.com
LinkedIn (Personal): https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamweisner
LinkedIn (Sherman Portfolios): https://www.linkedin.com/company/sherman-portfolios

Connect with the hosts:
Will Abel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/willabel
Michael Grier: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelgrier

He saw the collapse before the headlines, and built a model that still stands.

Frank Cottle is the founder of Alliance Virtual Offices and AllWork.Space - and one of the few who predicted WeWork’s downfall.

In this re-release from our earlier season, Frank breaks down the business model that outlived WeWork, how to scale without debt, and why distributed teams will define the next era of work. From pioneering technology in the 1980s to leading a global team across 54 countries, his story is a blueprint for sustainable entrepreneurship, loyalty, and legacy.

This episode remains one of the most downloaded conversations from our archive - now reintroduced under the Unscriptd brand.

Key Topics Covered:

• The real reason WeWork collapsed

• How to grow without debt or dependency

• Remote teams before it was mainstream

• Hybrid work and the future of office space

• Leading with vision, loyalty, and legacy

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More from Frank Cottle:
Alliance Virtual Offices: https://alliancevirtualoffices.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alliancevirtual
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/alliancevirtualoffices
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AllianceVirtual
X (Twitter): https://twitter.com/alliancevirtual
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankcottle
Future of Work Podcast: https://allwork.space/podcast

Connect with the hosts:
Will Abel: https://linkedin.com/in/will-abel-396a21152
Michael Grier: https://linkedin.com/in/michaelgrier

The future’s already here - the question is, are we ready for it?

Welcome to the 50th episode of the Unscriptd Podcast. In this milestone conversation, hosts Will Abel and Michael Grier tackle the big question: Will 2025 be good or bad?

From driving frustrations and protein fads to tech overload and the tension between faith and culture, this episode captures the humor, honesty, and depth that define Unscriptd. The hosts reflect on how modern trends shape our lives, where society might be headed, and how to stay grounded in a world that’s constantly evolving.

It’s unscripted, unfiltered, and fully real - blending laughter, conviction, and curiosity as we navigate the landscape of 2025 together.

Key Topics Covered:

• The question: Is 2025 good or bad?

• Driving culture and safety in the modern world

• The rise of the protein craze

• Technology’s double-edged impact on daily life

• Faith and politics in 2025

• Grace, forgiveness, and self-awareness

• Entrepreneurship, exposure, and self-promotion

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Connect with the hosts:
Will Abel: https://linkedin.com/in/will-abel-396a21152
Michael Grier: https://linkedin.com/in/michaelgrier