Did you know that—legally—your pet is still considered property?
That outdated legal status isn’t just offensive—it’s dangerous. It affects everything from shelter euthanasia policies to divorce custody disputes and rehoming decisions. In this powerful episode, Em sits down with animal law expert Suzana Gartner to uncover the root legal issue holding back progress—and what her A-CAP framework offers as a new path forward.

You'll Learn:

• Learn how “property” status directly impacts shelter outcomes and animal welfare policy

• Hear how Suzana’s A-CAP philosophy is building legal models based on compassion, agency, and protection

• Discover real ways everyday dog parents can contribute to meaningful change—from education to advocacy

Press play to understand the hidden legal systems affecting the animals you love—and how to help shift the status quo from property to partnership.

Learn more and take action: suzanagartner.com

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