Amy Peterson, author of “Where Goodness Still Grows: Reclaiming Virtue in an Age of Hypocrisy,” joins us to chat about how the 2016 election inspired this book idea, why she hoped that it would be less relevant after the 2020 election concluded, why her chapter on Lament sparked controversy, why “Hamilton” is actually just “Get Out,” stupid Twitter takes, Isaac’s OnlyFans page, and doing what Carrie’s mom tells us to do.