Guests:
Helen Oakley, Director of Secure Software Supply Chains and Secure Development, SAP
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/helen-oakley
On Twitter | https://x.com/e2hln
On Instagram |https://instagram.com/e2hln
Larry Pesce, Product Security Research and Analysis Director, Finite State [@FiniteStateInc]
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/larrypesce/
On Twitter | https://x.com/haxorthematrix
On Mastodon | https://infosec.exchange/@haxorthematrix
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Hosts:
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin
Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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Episode Notes
Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli kicked off their discussion by pondering the intricacies and potential pitfalls of the AI supply chain. Martin humorously questioned when Ciappelli last checked the entire supply chain of an AI session, provoking insightful thoughts about how people approach AI today.
The conversation then shifted as Oakley and Pesce were introduced, with Oakley explaining her role in leading cybersecurity for the software supply chain at SAP and co-founding the AI Integrity and Safe Use Foundation. Pesce shared his expertise in product security research and pen testing, emphasizing the importance of securing AI integrations.
Preventing the AI Apocalypse
One of the session's highlights was the discussion titled "AI Apocalypse Prevention 101." Oakley and Pesce shared insights into the potential risks of AI overtaking human roles and discussed ways to prevent a hypothetical AI apocalypse. Oakley humorously noted her experimentation with deep fakes and emphasized the importance of addressing the root causes to avert catastrophic outcomes.
Pesce contributed by highlighting the need for a comprehensive Bill of Materials (BOM) for AI, pointing out how it differs from traditional software due to its unique reliance on multiple layers, including hardware and software components.
AI BOM: A Tool for Understanding and Compliance
The conversation evolved into a discussion about the AI BOM's significance. Oakley explained that the AI BOM serves as an ingredient list, akin to what you would find on packaged goods. It includes details about datasets, models, and energy consumption—critical for preventing decay or malicious behavior over time.
Pesce noted the AI BOM's potential in guiding pen testing and compliance. He emphasized the challenges that companies face in keeping up with rapidly evolving AI technology, suggesting that AI BOM could potentially streamline compliance efforts.
Engagement at the CISO Executive Summit
The speakers touched on SECTOR 2024's CISO Executive Summit, inviting senior leaders to join the conversation. Oakley highlighted the summit's role in providing a platform for addressing AI challenges and regulations. Martin and Ciappelli emphasized the value of attending such events for exchanging knowledge and ideas in a secure, collaborative environment.
Conclusion: A Call to Be Prepared
As the episode wrapped up, Sean Martin extended an invitation to all interested in preventing an AI apocalypse to join the broader discussions at SECTOR 2024. Helen Oakley and Larry Pesce left listeners with a pressing reminder of the importance of understanding AI's potential impact.
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Guests:
Helen Oakley, Director of Secure Software Supply Chains and Secure Development, SAP
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/helen-oakley
On Twitter | https://x.com/e2hln
On Instagram |https://instagram.com/e2hln
Larry Pesce, Product Security Research and Analysis Director, Finite State [@FiniteStateInc]
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/larrypesce/
On Twitter | https://x.com/haxorthematrix
On Mastodon | https://infosec.exchange/@haxorthematrix
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Hosts:
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin
Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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Episode Notes
Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli kicked off their discussion by pondering the intricacies and potential pitfalls of the AI supply chain. Martin humorously questioned when Ciappelli last checked the entire supply chain of an AI session, provoking insightful thoughts about how people approach AI today.
The conversation then shifted as Oakley and Pesce were introduced, with Oakley explaining her role in leading cybersecurity for the software supply chain at SAP and co-founding the AI Integrity and Safe Use Foundation. Pesce shared his expertise in product security research and pen testing, emphasizing the importance of securing AI integrations.
Preventing the AI Apocalypse
One of the session's highlights was the discussion titled "AI Apocalypse Prevention 101." Oakley and Pesce shared insights into the potential risks of AI overtaking human roles and discussed ways to prevent a hypothetical AI apocalypse. Oakley humorously noted her experimentation with deep fakes and emphasized the importance of addressing the root causes to avert catastrophic outcomes.
Pesce contributed by highlighting the need for a comprehensive Bill of Materials (BOM) for AI, pointing out how it differs from traditional software due to its unique reliance on multiple layers, including hardware and software components.
AI BOM: A Tool for Understanding and Compliance
The conversation evolved into a discussion about the AI BOM's significance. Oakley explained that the AI BOM serves as an ingredient list, akin to what you would find on packaged goods. It includes details about datasets, models, and energy consumption—critical for preventing decay or malicious behavior over time.
Pesce noted the AI BOM's potential in guiding pen testing and compliance. He emphasized the challenges that companies face in keeping up with rapidly evolving AI technology, suggesting that AI BOM could potentially streamline compliance efforts.
Engagement at the CISO Executive Summit
The speakers touched on SECTOR 2024's CISO Executive Summit, inviting senior leaders to join the conversation. Oakley highlighted the summit's role in providing a platform for addressing AI challenges and regulations. Martin and Ciappelli emphasized the value of attending such events for exchanging knowledge and ideas in a secure, collaborative environment.
Conclusion: A Call to Be Prepared
As the episode wrapped up, Sean Martin extended an invitation to all interested in preventing an AI apocalypse to join the broader discussions at SECTOR 2024. Helen Oakley and Larry Pesce left listeners with a pressing reminder of the importance of understanding AI's potential impact.
____________________________
This Episode’s Sponsors
HITRUST: https://itspm.ag/itsphitweb
____________________________
Follow our SecTor Cybersecurity Conference Toronto 2024 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/sector-cybersecurity-conference-2024-cybersecurity-event-coverage-in-toronto-canada
On YouTube: 📺 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllSCvf6o-K0forAXxj2P190S
Be sure to share and subscribe!
____________________________
Resources
Learn more about SecTor Cybersecurity Conference Toronto 2024: https://www.blackhat.com/sector/2024/index.html
____________________________
Catch all of our event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-cybersecurity-society-humanity-conference-and-event-coverage
Are you interested in sponsoring our event coverage with an ad placement in the podcast?
Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/podadplc
Want to tell your Brand Story as part of our event coverage?
Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrf
To see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast
To see and hear more Redefining Society stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:
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