In this episode of Unwritten Law, Mark Chenoweth and John Vecchione welcome Margot Cleveland to unpack the Supreme Court case Trump v. Slaughter, a historic challenge to whether the President can remove commissioners of the Federal Trade Commission at will.

They walk through the key amicus briefs, Professor Caleb Nelson’s arguments, and Philip Hamburger’s response in the Yale Journal on Regulation emphasizing the Constitution’s unitary executive structure. The trio also discuss the foreign-policy powers exercised by modern independent agencies and why the Court may finally be ready to overturn Humphrey’s Executor. A deep dive into one of the most important separation-of-powers cases of the term.

John Vecchione sits down with NCLA’s Kara Rollins to unpack her new article published in the Yale Journal on Regulation, written as part of an online symposium analyzing Senator Eric Schmitt’s post–Loper Bright working-group report. Kara breaks down the misunderstood concept of “necessary” discretion in statutes, how agencies exploit vague language to expand their power, and why Congress should reform definition sections—rather than abandon useful legislative terms. They also discuss real-world examples from NCLA’s litigation, including R-CALF and Magnuson-Stevens, and explore how tighter drafting could rein in overreach in the post-Chevron era.

Read Kara’s full article here:

https://www.yalejreg.com/nc/necessary-discretion-a-primer-for-non-lawyers-by-kara-mckenna-rollins/

Mark Chenoweth and John Vecchione recap the 2025 Federalist Society National Lawyers Convention, offering candid insight into what made this year’s gathering different. From Judge Andy Oldham’s powerful Barbara Olson Lecture to unexpected debate pairings and shifts in programming philosophy, they break down where the convention excelled — and where it missed opportunities.

They discuss the tension between staging debates for show versus digging into substantive legal questions, the increasing presence of younger speakers, the lack of deep dives on topics like tariffs and administrative overreach, and the overall feel of the event’s intellectual energy. Mark and John also highlight memorable moments, including the conversation with Justices Barrett and Kavanaugh, Steve Bradbury’s Department of Transportation panel, and a compelling discussion on free speech rights for non-citizens.

A mix of recap, critique, and commentary, this episode gives listeners an insider’s view of how the conservative legal movement’s biggest annual gathering is evolving in 2025.

John Vecchione sits down with Kara Rollins to explore her recent piece in the Yale Journal on Regulation titled “Necessary” Discretion: A Primer for Non-Lawyers. They delve into what it really means when legislatures grant agencies the authority to act when something is “necessary,” how courts interpret these trigger‐words, and why this matters for administrative power. From the Spending Clause to rule‐making, this conversation breaks down complex doctrine in plain terms and shows how “necessary” might mean more than you think.

Senior Litigation Counsel Margaret Harker joins Mark Chenoweth and John Vecchione to unpack the House Oversight Committee’s auto-pen investigation — a 100-page probe that raises serious questions about President Biden’s cognitive fitness, missing decision records, and last-minute pardons allegedly authorized via an auto-pen rather than by the President himself. They discuss the committee’s referral to the Department of Justice, the legal issues around voiding pardons, and why the report’s findings matter for presidential accountability and the rule of law.

Mark Chenoweth and John Vecchione welcome NCLA Senior Litigation Counsel Russ Ryan for a jaw-dropping judicial-ethics cases.

A Texas judge—currently presiding over a live case—has written three novels featuring characters bearing striking resemblance of herself and on one of the actual litigants before her. The fictional version of the real-life businessman is cast as a villain.

The case is Dondero v. Jernigan, raising fundamental questions about impartiality.

Russ walks through the surreal facts and NCLA’s concise but impactful amicus brief urging the Court to fix the problem.

This is an episode you do not want to miss.

Fresh from the Supreme Court, Mark Chenoweth, John Vecchione, and Andy Morris break down oral arguments in the Trump tariffs case — a landmark challenge over whether the president can impose tariffs under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA).

John and Andy share what they saw in the courtroom, how the justices responded, and why this case could redefine the limits of executive authority. From Justice Kagan’s sharp textual questions to Justice Kavanaugh’s deference to presidential power, the episode captures the day’s biggest moments — and what they reveal about the future of constitutional checks and balances.

In this episode of Unwritten Law, Mark Chenoweth and John Vecchione welcome NCLA’s new Senior Litigation Counsel, Jacob Huebert, to unpack Trump v. Cook — a landmark Supreme Court case testing whether the president can fire a Federal Reserve governor at will. They dive into the constitutional roots of Article II, what it means for presidential authority, and why the Fed’s independence might not be as untouchable as some believe.

The Supreme Court is set to hear Trump v. Slaughter, a landmark case that could finally overturn Humphrey’s Executor—the 1935 decision that created “independent” federal agencies beyond presidential control. Mark Chenoweth and John Vecchione are joined by NCLA’s Margot Cleveland, principal author of NCLA's amicus brief, to explain why this case could restore accountability to the executive branch and rein in the modern administrative state. From the origins of the FTC to the constitutional power of removal under Article II, this episode unpacks how the Court’s decision could reshape the balance of power in Washington.

Mark Chenoweth and John Vecchione are joined by NCLA’s Andy Morris to discuss one of the most consequential Supreme Court cases of the term — whether the president can impose tariffs under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA). They unpack the history of emergency powers, Congress’s exclusive authority to levy taxes, and how past presidents have tested these limits.

From Roosevelt’s bank closures to Trump’s trade wars, this episode explores why the Constitution clearly puts tariff authority in Congress’s hands — not the Oval Office.