In a Zoom meeting with Sri Ramana Center, Houston, on 4th December 2021 Michael James discusses verse 30 of Upadēśa Undiyār:

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யானற் றியல்வது தேரி னெதுவது

yāṉaṯ ṟiyalvadu tēri ṉeduvadu

பதச்சேதம்: ‘யான் அற்று இயல்வது தேரின் எது, அது தான் நல் தவம்’ என்றான் தான் ஆம் ரமணேசன்

Padacchēdam (word-separation): ‘yāṉ aṯṟu iyalvadu tēriṉ edu, adu-dāṉ nal tavam’ eṉḏṟāṉ tāṉ ām ramaṇēśaṉ.

English translation: ‘I ceasing, what if one knows what remains, that alone is good tapas’: thus said Lord Ramana, who is oneself.

Explanatory paraphrase: ‘What [exists and shines alone] if one knows what remains after I [ego] has ceased to exist, [just being] that [namely egoless pure awareness] alone is good tapas [spiritual austerity or asceticism]’: thus said Lord Ramana, who is oneself [one’s own real nature].

While discussing the meaning and implications of this verse and answering questions about it Michael also discusses various other passages from Bhagavan’s writings, including Upadēśa Undiyār, Uḷḷadu Nāṟpadu, Nāṉ Ār?, Śrī Aruṇācala Akṣaramaṇamālai, Aruṇācalaramaṇaṉ, Āṉma-Viddai, the first teachings he gave to Kavyakantha Ganapati Sastri and Guru Vācaka Kōvai.

This episode can also be watched as a video, 2021-12-04 Sri Ramana Center, Houston: Michael James discusses Upadēśa Undiyār verse 30, and a more compressed audio copy in Opus format (which can be listened to in the VLC media player and some other apps) can be downloaded from here.