In this episode, I was joined by Jsawyer, one of the co-founders of the upcoming Next World platform being built for the Upland Metaverse. J has been playing Upland since late 2019, becoming an official Uplander in February 2020, and he’s maintained a slow and steady growth of his account since. That’s all starting to change as Next World begins to take shape however, and it presents quite a paradox with my own Upland journey, where I started off big and have recently dialled my engagement levels way back. We discussed all of that today, along with some personal history and his insights and opinions on various Upland and WEB3-related topics, which I hope you enjoy despite several moments of lag and various other technical difficulties we navigated. As you’ll find out in our discussions, J and the team are highly experienced WEB3 creators, placing Next World in a truly unique position, primed for massive success within and beyond the Upland Metaverse. And who knows? From the sounds of what they are building, it might finally be a Layer 2 that captures my attention and interest and could be the catalyst that ramps up my own engagement levels again. Time will tell on that one. What is exceptionally clear though, is that Jsawyer is a man with a plan for this world and Next World in 'The Metaverse and Beyond!'.