In episode 5 or series 5.5 (how many 5's can you get?) we speak to Kayley Hamilton, a 2X Emmy Award-winning producer from Los Angeles and the founder of KAYLEY Media.

Kayley is not only a PR but a former journalist who understands how to use the "personal" to create connections with journalists and the public.

It's a chat that is packed with actionable ideas.

Kayley talks about the importance of personal narratives in public relations and the parallels between journalists chasing headlines and brands striving for connection.

You'll hear firsthand tales of celebrity encounters and the intertwining of showbiz with PR. Whether you're a PR pro, a business owner, or a media junkie, this episode reveals the secret sauce behind what makes a story truly captivating.

Join us as we bridge the worlds of Hollywood, traditional news outlets, and modern PR tactics to uncover the magic behind the story.