What does a retired NFL pro do to clear his head and find direction and peace? Well, if the NFL pro you're talking about is Joe Hawley, the answer is to grab your dog, get a van, and hit the road! The RV Small Talk Podcast team had the chance to meet Joe when he came by Princess Craft RV to pick us his new Arctic Fox truck camper. We got his story, heard his "now" and wonder about the amazing future ahead of him. Join us!