Jim White, Simon Jordan and Danny Murphy looked back as Celtic’s unbeaten start to the season came to a halt as they were taught a Champions League lesson by Borussia Dortmund. Is Brendan being tactically arrogant in Europe? Meanwhile, Manchester United captain Bruno Fernandes has avoided a ban after the club successfully appealed against his red card in Sunday's loss to Tottenham. Should clubs still be allowed to appeal in this VAR era?

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