Version Up

I'm joined by LegalTech consultant Emma Kelly (quadK) to discuss law firm deployment of technology. We talk about what an "AI law firm" might look like and mean for corporate clients, small businesses, and even individuals seeking legal services. Along the way, we explore the evolution of AI and machine learning from its e-discovery roots to prospects for practice-specific end-to-end digital platforms for legal services. 

You can reach Emma at [email protected] or follow her at Emma Kelly | LinkedIn. 

Legal practitioners and legal ops professionals play complementary roles that, combined, are critical to the successful deployment of LegalTech solutions at a corporate. I sit down with Michiel Ypma, Group Head of Legal Operations and Finance at ABB, to talk about the role of Legal Ops in helping lawyers identify the problems that need solving, finding the right solutions, securing internal buy-in, and driving user adoption. As it turns out, legal practice has a lot to learn from MBA-style thinking about strategic planning and operations. 

You can find Michiel at Michiel Ypma | LinkedIn

*As always, views expressed our own* 

I'm joined by Devon Willitts, Legal Engineering Lead at Robin AI. We talk LegalTech deployment at large corporates, covering the evolution of AI/ML, use cases for contract analysis, measuring the effectiveness of tech tools, and successful user adoption in-house. 

Building AI Agents is not complicated, and it opens up opportunities to automate and streamline your day-to-day work as a lawyer. On this episode, I explain what Agentic AI is and how it works, why you should learn to build AI Agents on your own, and how they fit within a spectrum of LegalTech solutions for legal practitioners.

LegalTech tools to audit, monitor and even give real-time feedback on employee communications tackle a key vector of legal risk for any organization. I talk to Darin Hicks, CEO of LitLingo, about the benefits and potential challenges of deploying these products at a large legal corporate.

LitLingo - Detect and Prevent Careless Communication

Darin Hicks on LinkedIn

I discuss the industry tailwinds behind the accelerating adoption of LegalTech by legal professionals in-house and at law firms.

In this episode, I share some impressions and takeaways from attending LegalWeek 2025, a LegalTech conference hosted this year in NYC.

Kicking the podcast off with an overview of LegalTech – what it is, the industry's current state of play, the tailwinds driving its adoption, and the benefits and risks of deploying it in your legal practice. Version Up is one lawyer's journey to digitally transform his legal practice. Follow along as I try to separate the signal from the noise and smartly deploy value-add LegalTech tools at a legal corporate. 

**Views are my own and do not reflect those of my employer**

Hosted by Kaj Rozga

Music by Brett Ryback