The conversation revolves around the rise of mana denial strategies in Legacy, particularly the Stifle-based decks. The hosts discuss the reasons behind this trend, including the prevalence of greedy mana bases and the effectiveness of cards like Nulled Drifter and Phyrexian Dreadnought. They also explore the potential impact of MH3 on the meta, with a focus on the resilience of decks like Grixis Delver and the emergence of Talon Gates as a tool against mana denial. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the current state of the meta and the potential for Eightcast to make a comeback. The conversation explores the dominant decks and strategies in the Legacy format, focusing on the pillars of Delver, Beanstalk, and Urza Saga. The hosts discuss the power of certain cards like Wrath of the Skies and Psychic Frog, and how they can control the board and disrupt opponents. They also touch on the importance of mana denial and playing around cards like Stifle and Daze. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the power level of tempo and control decks in the current meta.