Māori language lecturer Dr Vini Olsen Reeder and songwriter Ria Hall talk about their personal relationships with te reo. Olsen-Reeder began studying te reo as a university student and became the first person to complete a PhD thesis in te reo Māori at Victoria University. Hall grew up as a first-generation 'Kōhanga Reo kid' and the Māori language is integral to her work.