Vinter Podcast

This episode revolves around the world's first staking basket ETP. Jacob Lindberg dives into the world of crypto investment products with Arthur Krause, a seasoned professional in the ETF industry. He worked at BlackRock as VP of iShares ETF product development, designing and delivering innovative new products for over 13 years. Arthur is now leading the design and development of crypto investment products for 21Shares in Europe and the US. Jacob and Arthur discuss the latest addition to the 21Shares portfolio, STAKE. Arthur describes the mechanics of staking and the underlying thesis behind the product.

In this episode of the Vinter podcast, Laurent Kssis and Jacob Lindberg discuss his relationship with Vinter, his experience at firms like Hashdex, 21Shares and Coinshares, trading, and how being unusually clear and upfront affects working relationships. In addition, they briefly mention the FTX debacle.

Laurent Kssis had a successful career in the traditional ETF industry before entering crypto. He was a partner at Bluefin Trading LLC, head of ETF market maker sales and trading at Labranche & Co, head of ETF trading & co-head of portfolio trading at Societe Generale, and FX transition manager at State Street, to name a few.

Laurent was a board member at Vinter from mid-2019 to early 2022, and few people have contributed to Vinter's success like him.

In this episode, Jacob interviewed Marcelo Sampaio on his 42nd birthday. Marcelo is the CEO and co-founder of Hashdex. He was formerly the chief growth officer and co-founder of the tech firm Endless based in San Francisco. Before Endless, he worked at Rios, the official investment agency of Rio De Janeiro. He spent seven years at Oracle in Brazil, where he became the company's youngest country head of sales. Marcelo was an early adopter of Bitcoin. He has given several talks on crypto, one of which Jacob attended at the Ethereum Rio Conference in 2022.

In this conversation, they talk about marketing, index investing, the Vinter Hashdex Risk Parity Momentum Index, and his role as co-founder and CEO. They also briefly touched on other important things like kite surfing, meat and time-restricted feeding.

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Video of this episode is available at vinter.co/bytetree or you can view on the Vinter YouTube Channel here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc0F4D1W1iM&t=25s

Marc Powers is currently an adjunct professor at Florida International University College of Law, where he leads the courses Blockchain & the Law and Fintech Law. He recently retired from practicing at an Am Law 100 law firm, where he built both its national securities litigation and regulatory enforcement practice team and its hedge fund industry practice. Marc started his legal career in the SEC’s Enforcement Division. During his 40 years in law, he was involved in representations including the Bernie Madoff Ponzi scheme, a recent presidential pardon and the Martha Stewart insider trading trial.

In this episode, Jacob Lindberg meets with Jean-Charles Dudek, co-founder and Managing Director of Napoleon Group, a crypto asset management company that CoinShares recently acquired. Jean-Charles is an experienced banker with over 15 years in several Tier 1 banks. As a former Head of Active Protected Funds at BNP Paribas, he has a long-standing experience on both buy and sell sides (sales, structuring, and fund management) and a deep knowledge of the structured, quant & crypto business. Jacob and Jean-Charles discuss what it takes to list a crypto ETP in Europe, how having ICO experience has shaped Napoleon Group, and where the next inflow of capital to crypto will come from.

In this episode, Jacob Lindberg meets with Hector McNeil, Co-CEO of HANetf. Featured in The Times, Financial Times, and other publications, Hector was recently recognized as one of the most influential ETF experts in the industry. He was instrumental in establishing Susquehanna’s ETF desk in Europe as head of business development. Hector then joined ETF Securities as Joint Managing Partner, before going on to found BoostETP with Nik Bienkowski in 2011. BoostETP was purchased by US ETF provider WisdomTree in 2014 and following the completion of this buyout in 2016 Hector stepped down as Co-CEO of WisdomTree Europe. He has since set up Europe’s first independent ‘white label’ ETF platform, HANetf, with business partner Nik Bienkowski, which will provide asset managers with a turnkey solution to enter the European ETF market. Hector, a Fellow of the Securities Institute, holds a BA in Economics and received an MBA from Warwick Business School. Jacob and Hector talk about crypto assets' role in a portfolio, inflation, and what makes a good index and ETF respectively.

In this episode, Jacob Lindberg meets with Bradley Duke, CEO of ETC Group, a European provider of exchange-traded crypto products. Bradley has spent most of his career in regulated Financial Services as well as young technology companies. He worked for investment bank Jefferies at their offices in New York, Paris and London, and then at the trading powerhouse KCG in London where he headed the team at Knight Direct Europe. Bradley co-founded fin-tech and payments company Zapper and most recently was CEO of the UK branch of the investment bank BCS Global Markets.

Jacob and Bradley talk about crypto exchange-traded products, the quality of carbon credits, and Bitcoin's energy consumption. They also exchange views on ESG and the importance of staying innovative in the increasingly competitive crypto ETP industry. Lastly, they discuss why the message behind Bitcoin and crypto-assets is important but easy to forget if you are from a developed country.

In this episode, Jacob Lindberg speaks with Charlie Erith, the CEO of ByteTree Asset Management. Erith spent 25 years in equity sales, hedge funds, and long-only fund management before joining ByteTree. They both talk about being a value investor in crypto, viewing bitcoin as a network, having a clear investment thesis, and which skills you as a traditional asset manager can bring into crypto. They also talk about ByteTree's current products including newsletters, a private fund, and an exchange-traded product tracking a bitcoin and gold index.

Vinter's Jacob Lindberg and Safello's Frank Schuil (founder and CEO) spar in this episode on everything from how Frank discovered crypto, the times when the entire crypto community would fit in a room, stories on investments, investors and how Safello ensures proper pricing and custody on their platform. They discuss the current DeFi vs Bitcoin debate, and what problems crypto can solve or create.